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joewildlife
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02/04/2020 10:25AM  
I did trips out of the southeast part of the park and have seen most of the south end of the park. What I have not seen is much of the Gammon River and Bloodvein River systems.

My 23 year old daughter and I will be going back to WCPP in the future and we were thinking about two 14 day June 1 trips, both trips starting and ending at Lund, one down and back on the Gammon and one down and back on the Bloodvein. We have two solo canoes and have more time than money, so we don't need to fly in anywhere if we can just paddle there and back.

Your thoughts on these river routes would be appreciated.
Joe
 
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Marten
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02/04/2020 08:25PM  
My first thought is that it would be more interesting to turn the trips into loops using one of these to access the waters between the Bloodvein and Gammon: Murdock to Royd chain of narrow lakes, Larus Creek to Irvine Loop, Royd via Dunstan, Indian House to Royd using the Minjim route through Constellation, and finally the longest and toughest is Artery to Carroll using the Ford portages on the west side of the park. Two weeks gives plenty of time to enjoy the solitude and smaller waters of the area between the river systems. IMO the Bloodvein is far from the best WCCP has to offer.
 
joewildlife
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02/05/2020 11:55AM  
So Marten, yeah on your advice I was looking at the maps and watched a couple of your videos... Don't think we will be bushwhacking but we can manage with anything that resembles a portage. So that area Indianhouse to Royd, up to Dunstan, or up to Irvine, it all looks interesting and more along the lines of what I'm looking for. With the lists of lakes with cabins and motorboats on the other thread, looks like we might want to stay off the Bloodvein. We value solitude and fishing...Harlan's "Trout and Solitude" trip area was dead on for a trip in the south/southwest part of the park. The area you mention between the Bloodvein and Gammon sounds pretty similar in many respects, and some of it is walleye water? What is Gammon lake like, I didn't see it on the list of lakes with cabins or boats on the other thread. it looks to be an easier way we could use to make more of a loop Indianhouse to Royd and beyond, then back down to Gammon and back. 14 days for a trip like that would leave plenty of time for fishing and relaxing at camp. This would be double portaging with two solo canoes, using Lund entry point and exit.
thanks,
Joe
 
Marten
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02/05/2020 06:13PM  
Gammon Lake has a cabin on it. I have been told the walleye there are scarce. People there actually have boat caches so they can get down to Rostoul to fish. A lot of burn Royd to Irvine and also east through Constellation. Joey lake is the second lake east of Lighting and is fantastic for solitude and Walleye. Lightning has never produced fish that I know of. It is the headwater lake for Royd and no Walleye because it does not have a water connection to Joey. Joey has Walleye because they came up from Gammon Lake a long time ago. Minjim route through Joey and Lighting is a route I laid out 10 years ago as a nicer way to travel to Royd from Indian House. The park finally opened the portages.
 
joewildlife
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02/18/2020 11:13AM  
Marten, thanks again for your advice. Our next trip will definitely use the Minjim route and now I want to get to Irvine and Dunstan, and that general area of the park. It has really become apparent to me that knowledge is key to getting the kind of experience you want in WCPP.

Joe
 
02/18/2020 11:52AM  
joewildlife: "I want to get to Irvine and Dunstan"

Joe, let us know what those lakes are like - I was on both in the summer of '17 and thought they were the cat's meow with solid fishing even in August. But I am certain they look very different today, after the 2018 burn - post some photos after your trip please!
 
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