I just did a tent camping trip with my wife and dog. We heard coyotes every night and early every morning. I wanted to get a feel for how you guys react upon hearing coyotes (or wolves) nearby in the middle of the night while you're in your tent. For me, I've never heard wolves but I often hear coyotes. I can't help but smile and feel so alive, even if they woke me up from a deep slumber. Aside from your personal vendettas (or not) against coyotes, what do you feel when you hear a pack of crying/communicating coyotes or wolves?

I love it. I've done numerous tarp camps with my dog where I have heard them. Sometimes pretty close too.

love hearing both...... but still I'd like to get that coyote that attacked my dog.

I'll never forget one August night on my birthday. We were camping on Kawishiwi Lake and settled in for the Perseid meteor showers. As the shooting stars were coming, just a little to the north, a green curtain of the northern lights started to glow and then just behind us a pack of wolves started to howl.

Best birthday present ever.

I enjoy hearing them although it does keep me awake afterwards. I do worry about encounters between my dog and them.

It is always a treat for me, whether in the BWCA, or southwest Wisconsin for deer hunting.

OneMatch: "I'll never forget one August night on my birthday. We were camping on Kawishiwi Lake and settled in for the Perseid meteor showers. As the shooting stars were coming, just a little to the north, a green curtain of the northern lights started to glow and then just behind us a pack of wolves started to howl.


Best birthday present ever."

Hard to top that One Match - pretty sweet

I love the sound. But that’s when I also bring my dogs in close. That’s a primary reason why I also like to carry a very bright headlamp or flashlight - to really light up the woods or fields around me and the dogs.

We have them all over the place here in Northeast Illinois. I like to hear them until my dogs decide to join in at 3:00 in the morning.

Love hearing them when camping in the BW. Dislike hearing them when sitting in my tree stand, usually in the dark in the very early morning, when bow hunting or gun hunting deer. But it is a very wild feeling either way.

Did someone say coyote?.

I worked on the iron range for 4 year. I saw wolves several time and heard they howl quite often. I know they aren’t a threat to humans, but when they started howling at midnight it didn’t take me long to pack up my tools and call it a night.

Carl

yogi59weedr: "Did someone say coyote?.
"

There's nothing to be afraid of. I see them in the FP by me all the time. I just yell at them or run at them and they take off like a bat out of hell.

PeaceFrog: "

OneMatch: "I'll never forget one August night on my birthday. We were camping on Kawishiwi Lake and settled in for the Perseid meteor showers. As the shooting stars were coming, just a little to the north, a green curtain of the northern lights started to glow and then just behind us a pack of wolves started to howl.



Best birthday present ever."

Hard to top that One Match - pretty sweet"

That's the best birthday present ever, just as you said.

Oh, I'm not afraid of them.
I just don't like them getting young fawns and young turkeys and rabbits..

I love their howling. One June, I heard the pups howling. Too cute!

yogi59weedr: "Oh, I'm not afraid of them.
I just don't like them getting young fawns and young turkeys and rabbits.."

Come on yogi, plenty of room for a little crowd control in all three of those categories.

Listening to wolves howl is magical, coyotes less so but still enjoyable if they don't carry on too long. Turkeys on the other hand can be downright obnoxious!

Wolves…awesome.

Coyotes not so much. Here in the TC they are a nuisance and it isn’t unusual for them to dine on a pet—-same growing up in the country in Iowa. At least when visiting my parents now my dog is smart enough to come running to the door when he hears a pack move in…the first time he was curious and ran off to greet them, almost his last mistake. Don’t hate coyotes… just the sound of them doesn’t bring pleasant memories.

T

timatkn: "Wolves…awesome. Here in the TC they are a nuisance and it isn’t unusual for them to dine on a pet—-same growing up in the country in Iowa. At least when visiting my parents now my dog is smart enough to come running to the door when he hears a pack move in…"

Unfortunately, when wolves and cougars are eradicated from an area there is not much in the way of natural predators for the coyote. And they're super-adaptable, more so than deer even. Yes, the best thing is to train your dog not to chase after any wildlife. Although mine still has a hard time with turkeys yet as she has not had much experience with them. And I would be lying if I said I still wasn't worried that they would draw her out but it's never been an issue.

Only thing I know of that has a 24 hrs a day 365 days a year season.
Hence the infra-red night vision scope.

I was chased by two coyotes while riding my bike at night on Cape Cod in Massachusetts in June 2005. Managed to evade them by pedalling furiously for what seemed like forever. One of the most terrifying outdoors experiences of my life.

OneMatch: "I'll never forget one August night on my birthday. We were camping on Kawishiwi Lake and settled in for the Perseid meteor showers. As the shooting stars were coming, just a little to the north, a green curtain of the northern lights started to glow and then just behind us a pack of wolves started to howl.


Best birthday present ever."

What a beautiful image...made my day!

Mike

Kendis: "I was chased by two coyotes while riding my bike at night on Cape Cod in Massachusetts in June 2005. Managed to evade them by pedalling furiously for what seemed like forever. One of the most terrifying outdoors experiences of my life."

What?? I've never heard of anything like that involving a human and only 2 coyotes.

I forgot after my dogs near miss with a pack of coyotes last year he came across a loan one while Pheasant hunting in Iowa this year and decided on some payback... I love my dog but sometimes he makes me shake my head. You'd think if he smelled one after his previous experience he would be wary but no...he doesn't take after me at all :) All ended well, Coyote got away minimal harm from my dog and my dog was fine--he listens well and let the coyote go, but now I worry about him at night more. No I didn't shoot it...I don't shoot anything on the ground when pheasant hunting as the dogs are on the ground too...That coyote looked way bigger than my dog but must of been all fur.

If you google coyote attacks you can find quite a few so it looks scary but to keep it in perspective I think you are more likley to get killed by an errant golf ball than a coyote :) or there are 4.5 million people attacked/bitten by dogs in the US each year vs. an average of 10 people bitten/attacked by coyotes.

T

yogi59weedr: "Only thing I know of that has a 24 hrs a day 365 days a year season.
Hence the infra-red night vision scope."

I've heard that you could shoot coyotes at night but I never believed it. I was never able to find any regulations permitting it either. Are you sure that you can shoot coyotes like that?

Also, if I had a shot on one, and it wouldn't interfere with anything else I was hunting, I'd shoot a coyote. There gets to be a lot of them around me and I've seen them in town. With people around and no predators, their numbers get inflated and they get more and more bold. Killing a few to manage the population is overall beneficial.

My office used to have two hunter/trapper people who went after problem predators. However, we used to tell people that removal of coyotes through trapping or shooting is not a good way to reduce overall population. Such activities tend to increase litter size and breeding females.
I made a short attempt to find something on the subject. See Coyote repro

We hear both coyotes and wolves fairly often. My dogs definitely know the difference. When the coyotes are yipping, the dogs bark. When the wolves howl, one dog howls and the other one hides in the garage.

Plenty of coyotes around here. I see them at the nature center where I volunteer and pets sometimes disappear if out after dark. I am located in an urban area in SE Wisconsin just south of Milwaukee.

I could say with pretty good confidence probably less than two coyotes in the BWCA. Well, maybe 3. Might be a few on the west end.

In Quetico once I had two packs of wolves howling back and forth on each side of me, both were probably a little less than half-mile away. I would howl and they would howl back.

Use to be a lot of coyotes by Longville pre-1991. Wolf populations were low. Well like they expanded over the entire range. been 3 decades since I have heard a coyote now. You hardly even see a single track.

Even south of Brainerd if wolves present coyotes leave. It also seems that if coyotes present grey fox disappear, they do well around wolves. Yes, grey foxes can climb trees to escape.

DRob1992: "

Kendis: "I was chased by two coyotes while riding my bike at night on Cape Cod in Massachusetts in June 2005. Managed to evade them by pedalling furiously for what seemed like forever. One of the most terrifying outdoors experiences of my life."

What?? I've never heard of anything like that involving a human and only 2 coyotes."

When XC skiing at WI Southern Kettle I had a coyote run out on the track right in front of me. It saw me and starting running down the track in my direction of travel.Even on a down hill I couldn't get close to it. Pretty cool

A1t2o: "

yogi59weedr: "I've heard that you could shoot coyotes at night but I never believed it. I was never able to find any regulations permitting it either. Are you sure that you can shoot coyotes like that?"

We are in America, not Europe.
Regulations of the government do not tell us what we can do, only (sadly too often) what we can't.

In illinois coyotes can be hunted 24 hrs a day from November 10 til March 15. After that it's half hour before and after sun rises and sets.

There is a book called "Coyote America" by Dan Flores that is a really interesting read on their natural history. They are an amazingly resilient animal.

A1t2o: "

yogi59weedr: "Only thing I know of that has a 24 hrs a day 365 days a year season.
Hence the infra-red night vision scope."

I've heard that you could shoot coyotes at night but I never believed it. I was never able to find any regulations permitting it either. Are you sure that you can shoot coyotes like that?"

Minnesota definitely allows it, yes. There are some extra regulations on specifics when doing so, but you can do it. It's explained in the hunting regulations booklet.

Interesting Stats-Mn. DNR-Wildlife: on wolves, bears, and coyotes. A wolf in Minnesota averages killing 18 deer per year while a coyote and bear average three. I think a bobcat was like one or so. A male Fisher kills like 0.5 deer per year.

My golden girl comes in close to 100 lbs, not overweight she's just a big Golden Retriever. Live on a city park in the TC metro, about a month ago I let her out for the last potty break of the night and a yote trotted by. This is a hound that doesn't even chase rabbits, squirrels or ducks in the yard, but for some reason the 13 lined ground squirrels get her attention,,,,,I think because they squeak like her toys.
Anyway, she took off after that yote sounding quite ferocious. I've never seen a coyote run that fast, beating arse like it's life depended on it. Part of me wonders what my sweet girl would do if she actually caught up with it, the other part of me wonders what the vet bill would be. She broke off the chase after 40 yards.......the yote was a block away at that point. I praised her like any proud papa would. A single doesn't worry me, multiple coyote's do. It's such a primitive response, The canine family don't get along all that much. Foxes are rare out back since the yotes have increased in numbers.
Shhhh.......be vewy vewy qwiet.

Duff: "My golden girl comes in close to 100 lbs, not overweight she's just a big Golden Retriever. Live on a city park in the TC metro, about a month ago I let her out for the last potty break of the night and a yote trotted by. This is a hound that doesn't even chase rabbits, squirrels or ducks in the yard, but for some reason the 13 lined ground squirrels get her attention,,,,,I think because they squeak like her toys.
Anyway, she took off after that yote sounding quite ferocious. I've never seen a coyote run that fast, beating arse like it's life depended on it. Part of me wonders what my sweet girl would do if she actually caught up with it, the other part of me wonders what the vet bill would be. She broke off the chase after 40 yards.......the yote was a block away at that point. I praised her like any proud papa would. A single doesn't worry me, multiple coyote's do. It's such a primitive response, The canine family don't get along all that much. Foxes are rare out back since the yotes have increased in numbers.
Shhhh.......be vewy vewy qwiet.



"

Very true, the other wild dog family doesn't have much love for eash other.

Unas10: "It is always a treat for me, whether in the BWCA, or southwest Wisconsin for deer hunting. "

Love the "yip-yip" had a pack run through our camp near Viola,Wi.

Had a friend who lives close to Moorehead Minnesota. He said a guy had a ton of cats, well
He couldn't figure out what was happening to them all. Well, it turns out the coyotes ate well and took care of most of their cats.

I was feeding calf’s one morning in November. I saw two dog like critters playing around in the pasture next to the calf’s. I figured one had to be my dog but was curious about the other. I finished feeding calf’s jumped on my ranger and went to investigate. Sure enough there was my dog and a coyote playing in the pasture.iv seen them a few times now pretty crazy to see.

yogi59weedr: "In illinois coyotes can be hunted 24 hrs a day from November 10 til March 15. After that it's half hour before and after sun rises and sets."

How does coyote taste? Hunting simply for the "thrill of the kill" or a skin seems a bit to Dahmer adjacent to endorse.

Banks Most of the time around my rural area of SE MN. We hunt coyotes to control populations so they don’t start killing young livestock. And I assume that this the situation in most of the country and reasons for there regulations. I can remember in the late 80s and early 90s neighbors complaining about young stock missing or found torn to shreds. So we started to hunt them. It’s all about survival. I would rather feed my family than a coyote

The Dude:

Fully understandable and by and large reasonable. A duty, not a joy.

As far as coyotes... they can be intimidating at best. If they are hungry enough they will go after even a good sized dog. They don’t fair well with my current dog. But Kira is also very cautious and makes sure I’m with her if she thinks there are anything like that out there. They don’t hang around if she starts running at em. As far as pups... they are cute little buggers, I’ve never seen more then two or three at a time. One tested my heart well one night not long after loosing Bernice. Pitch black out walking home from sisters. One started the whole yipping a few feet from me. No flashlight or anything. Probably had some kind of kill there. I don’t really worry about either them or wolves...

nctry: "As far as coyotes... they can be intimidating at best. If they are hungry enough they will go after even a good sized dog. They don’t fair well with my current dog. But Kira is also very cautious and makes sure I’m with her if she thinks there are anything like that out there. They don’t hang around if she starts running at em. As far as pups... they are cute little buggers, I’ve never seen more then two or three at a time. One tested my heart well one night not long after loosing Bernice. Pitch black out walking home from sisters. One started the whole yipping a few feet from me. No flashlight or anything. Probably had some kind of kill there. I don’t really worry about either them or wolves..."

When you say you don't worry about wolves, do you mean while you're home? Or are you speaking generally?

Oh, definitely thrill of the kill..
Ya might not like that but.........
Dropped one at 20 yds with my shot gun
.
Dropped the shot gun and picked up my AR. Finally rolled one at 250 yds after about 18 rounds.
Just trying to have fun and control the population...

DRob1992: "

nctry: "As far as coyotes... they can be intimidating at best. If they are hungry enough they will go after even a good sized dog. They don’t fair well with my current dog. But Kira is also very cautious and makes sure I’m with her if she thinks there are anything like that out there. They don’t hang around if she starts running at em. As far as pups... they are cute little buggers, I’ve never seen more then two or three at a time. One tested my heart well one night not long after loosing Bernice. Pitch black out walking home from sisters. One started the whole yipping a few feet from me. No flashlight or anything. Probably had some kind of kill there. I don’t worry about either them or wolves..."

When you say you don't worry about wolves, do you mean while you're home? Or are you speaking generally?"

Never worry about wolves or bears which almost every day I am around in the woods. I did worry when I hiked solo in Yellowstone Park and the Absaroka wilderness and Griz country. Where I hike in the Absoroka's over the years since I have been there it has seen multi times Griz maulings about right where I camped.

No around home I am more worried about a neighbor's black lab which I finally had to pepper spray and another time beat him off with a ski pole.

Pinetree: "

DRob1992: "

nctry: "As far as coyotes... they can be intimidating at best. If they are hungry enough they will go after even a good sized dog. They don’t fair well with my current dog. But Kira is also very cautious and makes sure I’m with her if she thinks there are anything like that out there. They don’t hang around if she starts running at em. As far as pups... they are cute little buggers, I’ve never seen more then two or three at a time. One tested my heart well one night not long after loosing Bernice. Pitch black out walking home from sisters. One started the whole yipping a few feet from me. No flashlight or anything. Probably had some kind of kill there. I don’t worry about either them or wolves..."

When you say you don't worry about wolves, do you mean while you're home? Or are you speaking generally?"

Never worry about wolves or bears which almost every day I am around in the woods. I did worry when I hiked solo in Yellowstone Park and the Absaroka wilderness and Griz country. Where I hike in the Absoroka's over the years since I have been there it has seen multi times Griz maulings about right where I camped.


No around home I am more worried about a neighbor's black lab which I finally had to pepper spray and another time beat him off with a ski pole."

Not trying to challenge anyone here... I just have an inquisitive mind and want to gather opinions and information... Is there anywhere on Earth (let's say you're tent camping with no weapons and no guard dogs) that you would fear wolves? I'm curious as to whether wolves in Russia (if there are any?) pose a greater threat than wolves in Minnesota? Is there a size difference in wolves depending on their habitat? May be ignorant questions but I grew up being told no question is a dumb question.

DRob1992: "

Pinetree: "

DRob1992: "

nctry: "As far as coyotes... they can be intimidating at best. If they are hungry enough they will go after even a good sized dog. They don’t fair well with my current dog. But Kira is also very cautious and makes sure I’m with her if she thinks there are anything like that out there. They don’t hang around if she starts running at em. As far as pups... they are cute little buggers, I’ve never seen more then two or three at a time. One tested my heart well one night not long after loosing Bernice. Pitch black out walking home from sisters. One started the whole yipping a few feet from me. No flashlight or anything. Probably had some kind of kill there. I don’t worry about either them or wolves..."

When you say you don't worry about wolves, do you mean while you're home? Or are you speaking generally?"

If I was walking out of the woods like my nephew's son did this year at dark and they follow me yeas I would be scared. The wolf and its power have the potential to do harm and would be more scared seeing a big pack of wolves all at once. Yes, things do happen and always will. Potential is there. Solo camping I usually at least have a can of Bear spray.



Never worry about wolves or bears which almost every day I am around in the woods. I did worry when I hiked solo in Yellowstone Park and the Absaroka wilderness and Griz country. Where I hike in the Absoroka's over the years since I have been there it has seen multi times Griz maulings about right where I camped.



No around home I am more worried about a neighbor's black lab which I finally had to pepper spray and another time beat him off with a ski pole."

Not trying to challenge anyone here... I just have an inquisitive mind and want to gather opinions and information... Is there anywhere on Earth (let's say you're tent camping with no weapons and no guard dogs) that you would fear wolves? I'm curious as to whether wolves in Russia (if there are any?) pose a greater threat than wolves in Minnesota? Is there a size difference in wolves depending on their habitat? May be ignorant questions but I grew up being told no question is a dumb question."

Most people don't realize it, but we're surrounded by coyotes at any given moment and nothing bad ever happens. I walk through fields and forest to/from fishing spots at night. When I shine a flashlight at my surroundings I've had at least a half dozen eyes staring back at me and have never felt threatened. Coyotes are so easy to scare off.

Wallidave: "Most people don't realize it, but we're surrounded by coyotes at any given moment and nothing bad ever happens. I walk through fields and forest to/from fishing spots at night. When I shine a flashlight at my surroundings I've had at least a half dozen eyes staring back at me and have never felt threatened. Coyotes are so easy to scare off."

They truly are everywhere. I know some people view them as a nuisance and a bother, probably rightfully so. But some of my absolute favorite nature moments in life have involved coyotes. Last winter, I was drinking my morning coffee around 4:30 AM in this big, open tent in a secluded area. I was the only person in the tent at the time. It was still dark out. My brain told me to look up, so I did. This coyote was half inside the tent and we maintained eye contact for a full second or more. He slowly backed out of the tent and I immediately got up and followed. I got to watch him trot lazily away. It was beautiful.

Now, this might be a little spooky walking down a trail?

DRob1992: "

Pinetree: "

DRob1992: "

nctry: "As far as coyotes... they can be intimidating at best. If they are hungry enough they will go after even a good sized dog. They don’t fair well with my current dog. But Kira is also very cautious and makes sure I’m with her if she thinks there are anything like that out there. They don’t hang around if she starts running at em. As far as pups... they are cute little buggers, I’ve never seen more then two or three at a time. One tested my heart well one night not long after loosing Bernice. Pitch black out walking home from sisters. One started the whole yipping a few feet from me. No flashlight or anything. Probably had some kind of kill there. I don’t worry about either them or wolves..."

When you say you don't worry about wolves, do you mean while you're home? Or are you speaking generally?"

Never worry about wolves or bears which almost every day I am around in the woods. I did worry when I hiked solo in Yellowstone Park and the Absaroka wilderness and Griz country. Where I hike in the Absoroka's over the years since I have been there it has seen multi times Griz maulings about right where I camped.



No around home I am more worried about a neighbor's black lab which I finally had to pepper spray and another time beat him off with a ski pole."

Not trying to challenge anyone here... I just have an inquisitive mind and want to gather opinions and information... Is there anywhere on Earth (let's say you're tent camping with no weapons and no guard dogs) that you would fear wolves? I'm curious as to whether wolves in Russia (if there are any?) pose a greater threat than wolves in Minnesota? Is there a size difference in wolves depending on their habitat? May be ignorant questions but I grew up being told no question is a dumb question."

No I am not worried at all and I've had bad altercations with coyotes. I am not ignorant of that under very special circumstances they could pose possibly pose a threat to me but I know I am something like 50x more likely to die of a lightning strike than a coyote or wolf attack...I don't worry about lightning either but I don't walking around with a pole over my head in a lightning storm either :) I don't knwo if that makes sense to you or not?

Also as Pinetree sort of noted earlier...I am much more wary of someone's dog I encounter on a portage or if it entered my camp than I would if I saw a wolf, bear or coyote on a portage. I know that dog is way more dangerous and likely to bite me than any wild animal. It's all about perspective.

timatkn: "

DRob1992: "

Pinetree: "

DRob1992: "

nctry: "As far as coyotes... they can be intimidating at best. If they are hungry enough they will go after even a good sized dog. They don’t fair well with my current dog. But Kira is also very cautious and makes sure I’m with her if she thinks there are anything like that out there. They don’t hang around if she starts running at em. As far as pups... they are cute little buggers, I’ve never seen more then two or three at a time. One tested my heart well one night not long after loosing Bernice. Pitch black out walking home from sisters. One started the whole yipping a few feet from me. No flashlight or anything. Probably had some kind of kill there. I don’t worry about either them or wolves..."

When you say you don't worry about wolves, do you mean while you're home? Or are you speaking generally?"

Never worry about wolves or bears which almost every day I am around in the woods. I did worry when I hiked solo in Yellowstone Park and the Absaroka wilderness and Griz country. Where I hike in the Absoroka's over the years since I have been there it has seen multi times Griz maulings about right where I camped.



No around home I am more worried about a neighbor's black lab which I finally had to pepper spray and another time beat him off with a ski pole."

Not trying to challenge anyone here... I just have an inquisitive mind and want to gather opinions and information... Is there anywhere on Earth (let's say you're tent camping with no weapons and no guard dogs) that you would fear wolves? I'm curious as to whether wolves in Russia (if there are any?) pose a greater threat than wolves in Minnesota? Is there a size difference in wolves depending on their habitat? May be ignorant questions but I grew up being told no question is a dumb question."

No I am not worried at all and I've had bad altercations with coyotes. I am not ignorant of that under very special circumstances they could pose possibly pose a threat to me but I know I am something like 50x more likely to die of a lightning strike than a coyote or wolf attack...I don't worry about lightning either but I don't walking around with a pole over my head in a lightning storm either :) I don't knwo if that makes sense to you or not?


Also as Pinetree sort of noted earlier...I am much more wary of som
eone's dog I encounter on a portage or if it entered my camp than I would if I saw a wolf, bear or coyote on a portage. I know that dog is way more dangerous and likely to bite me than any wild animal. It's all about perspective."

I understand all of what you said perfectly, timatkn, and can definitely relate to being far more likely to have a violent incident with a domesticated dog than a coyote or wolf.

Kendis: "I was chased by two coyotes while riding my bike at night on Cape Cod in Massachusetts in June 2005. Managed to evade them by pedalling furiously for what seemed like forever. One of the most terrifying outdoors experiences of my life."

You acted like prey, they acted like predators... Oddly enough, if you had stopped and faced them, and maybe picked up your bike to make yourself look bigger they would have been done. I was never a fast biker and learned that most dogs lost interest quickly when I dismounted the bike.

Two years ago I was awaken to the howl of wolves coming from two ides of our camp. They seemed to be calling back and forth between the packs. It was one of the most awesome experiences of the trip. I went outside and it was a very foggy and calm morning. This continued for some time before they seemed to move on to another location. I did hear them again farther in the distance.

DRob1992: "

Kendis: "I was chased by two coyotes while riding my bike at night on Cape Cod in Massachusetts in June 2005. Managed to evade them by pedalling furiously for what seemed like forever. One of the most terrifying outdoors experiences of my life."

What?? I've never heard of anything like that involving a human and only 2 coyotes."

better do a bit of research just google coyote attacks you will be surprised.

Many and a few deaths

coyote attack.

"I am much more wary of someone's dog I encounter on a portage or if it entered my camp than I would if I saw a wolf, bear or coyote on a portage. I know that dog is way more dangerous and likely to bite me than any wild animal."

A line from Pink Panther comes to mine. . . "Does your dog bite?"

I have done inspections now for 22 years. I have been bitten 3 times. One border collie, one poodle and a poofie dog of some type.

I don't believe anyone that says their dog doesn't bite.

That said, in 25 years of hunting I have run across 3 coyotes. They saw me and quickly moved on. Also, in 25 years of hunting, I never picked up a gut pile. The next day it was always gone. Without the coyotes, there would be a lot more disease.

I have a funny story sort of related. I was camping on Rose with my son and our American Eskimo dog. The dog was hanging out by the shore when a group paddled by. I could hear a guy say "Look it's a white wolf" to the others. He was dead serious. I didn't have to heart to correct him.

ockycamper: ""I am much more wary of someone's dog I encounter on a portage or if it entered my camp than I would if I saw a wolf, bear or coyote on a portage. I know that dog is way more dangerous and likely to bite me than any wild animal."


A line from Pink Panther comes to mine. . . "Does your dog bite?"


I have done inspections now for 22 years. I have been bitten 3 times. One border collie, one poodle and a poofie dog of some type.


I don't believe anyone that says their dog doesn't bite.


That said, in 25 years of hunting I have run across 3 coyotes. They saw me and quickly moved on. Also, in 25 years of hunting, I never picked up a gut pile. The next day it was always gone. Without the coyotes, there would be a lot more disease."

That's kinda messed up if someone was directly asked if their dog bites and they responded no... Our dog is aggressive and I don't wait to be asked... I let people know from a distance, "Yo, our dog is unfriendly!"

I know of one appraiser that went into the back yard of the house he was appraising and the owner was sitting on the back deck drinking a beer. The guys large dog started growling and cornered the appraiser in one part of the yard. The owner was just laughing. Finally the appraiser pulled out a pistol, pointed it at the dog, and told the owner it was his choice.

You would be amazed what appraisers run into during inspections.

but on the coyote issue. . . I have taken several people hunting with me. Other then safety rules, the only other rule I share is this: If you shoot it. . .you will clean it. . and eat it.

I have taken many, I mean many guys and gals hunting on our property. If you can get a yote in your cross hairs,, you better shoot it.
Show me a picture and pizza and beer are on me that night..
I'm not saying my beliefs are too much different then yours. Except coyotes. Every coyote I see I'm going to turn into a cloud and rain on his ass...

As long as were talking about wolves and coyotes here is a interesting article from Billings Montana:

LINCOLN, Neb. — A mountain lion that was born in Nebraska has been killed in Montana, a first for both states.

The Lincoln Journal-Star reports that the mountain lion was just a kitten in 2018 when state biologists found it and a sibling in a den in the Pine Ridge area near Chadron and attached yellow ear tags.

The kitten wearing tag NE 78 eventually headed north, crossed Interstate 90 and put the Black Hills behind him. He walked more than 250 miles, ending up near Ekalaka, Montana, in that state's southeast corner, where he was killed during the state's hunting season.

Sam Wilson, furbearer and carnivore manager for the Nebraska Game and Parks Commission, learned what happened last month. He said its mountain lions have been killed in neighboring states, but never in one more than a state away.

It was also a first for Montana. Officials there have long suspected lions from other states — particularly the nearby Dakotas — have moved into the area. But the tagged lion confirmed that, said Emily Mitchell, a Montana wildlife biologist.

ockycamper: "...the only other rule I share is this: If you shoot it. . .you will clean it. . and eat it."

Hey Ocky... we don't agree on much, but this is spot on for me. My wife would add "catch, clean AND cook"

bobbernumber3: "

ockycamper: "...the only other rule I share is this: If you shoot it. . .you will clean it. . and eat it."

Hey Ocky... we don't agree on much, but thus is spot on for me. My wife would add "catch, clean AND cook""

Probably the difference of living in Michigan vs Kentucky.

Always enjoy reading your posts. You put a lot of thought into them.

As to the coyotes. ..I would have to be really hungry to cook and eat one. Maybe as a brochette? When living in Morocco they would kill anything on the road and make brochettes out of them. You just never asked more then how much.