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Bearpath9
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05/28/2022 11:27AM  
Ran across this little guy today on my walk. I'm plenty familiar with Garter snakes, I've seen them all my life. Usually black, with yellow or red stripes. This one was a light tan color, lighter colored stripes and reddish eyes. First thought was albino, but I'm not too sure about that.
 
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missmolly
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05/28/2022 01:07PM  
Gartersnakamae Awesomeous, I believe.
 
05/28/2022 05:22PM  
Cool snake! I know MN has a bunch of cool snakes that people very rarely see and I checked some of them out, but this really looks like a Garter snake - just really bleached out. I’ll be curious to see if any true snake-o-philes can shed some light.

Side note: I was once portaging from Jordan to Cattyman and saw a pile of about 200 garter snakes. Guess it was mating season. Fascinating and ultra-creepy at the same time.
 
05/28/2022 06:42PM  
If it had pink eyes, I'm fairly certain it was an albino.
 
Savage Voyageur
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05/28/2022 08:14PM  
Looks like a Noperopereptilia to me.
 
05/28/2022 08:36PM  
Could be leucistic
 
05/28/2022 10:09PM  
I have seen the brown Gartner snake in Yellowstone park. I think maybe I have in the BWCA also?
 
05/29/2022 09:18AM  
Lots of garter snake color morphs in the wild, but they are pretty rare. A red or pink eye would make it an albino. There are blue, orange or red flame morph, melanistic/black morph and others. There are a few breeders that get strange combinations of garters.
 
Bearpath9
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05/29/2022 12:59PM  
sedges: "Lots of garter snake color morphs in the wild, but they are pretty rare. A red or pink eye would make it an albino. There are blue, orange or red flame morph, melanistic/black morph and others. There are a few breeders that get strange combinations of garters."


I think it is just a weird morph. I have an albino squirrel that I have conditioned to come up on my deck when I rattle a jar of peanuts. It's eyes are pink, whereas the snakes were a dark reddish color. I should have got better pics, but I was standing on the tip of its tail when I shot those two, and figured it had had enough stress and let it go.
 
rtbaum
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05/29/2022 06:53PM  
I think it may be entering a shed, reptiles will become quite opaque pre-shed.
 
Bearpath9
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05/30/2022 09:26AM  
rtbaum: "I think it may be entering a shed, reptiles will become quite opaque pre-shed.
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I tend to agree with that. I think it is a plains garter, but I still have problems with the markings.
 
05/31/2022 06:32AM  
How long was it? By appearance it looks to be a Little Brown Snake (yep, super creative name, I know). But the pale garter snake like stripes are throwing me off a bit.
 
Bearpath9
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05/31/2022 11:10AM  
naturboy12: "How long was it? By appearance it looks to be a Little Brown Snake (yep, super creative name, I know). But the pale garter snake like stripes are throwing me off a bit. "


I would guess about 18 inches long, and about the diameter of my index finger, which doesn't really help. But the length is pretty close. Yeah, the stripes are puzzling. I did take the pics to the visitor center in the main park, but it was Sunday, and nobody was around who could even make a guess.
 
CrowWing42
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06/05/2022 06:04AM  
rtbaum: "I think it may be entering a shed, reptiles will become quite opaque pre-shed.
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This is most likely the correct answer.
 
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