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justpaddlin
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04/11/2023 07:28PM  
Looks like Swift has starting building Wildfires.

Swift Wildfire

They also started offering the Dragonfly.

Dragonfly
 
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04/12/2023 02:27PM  
Originally were supposed to have them ready for Copia, but that was not the case.
 
justpaddlin
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04/12/2023 05:24PM  
I had a Bell Wildfire that I should have kept.

I used to paddle a friend's Curtis Dragonfly occasionally and it struck me as a comfy all around boat with a ton of river capability (more than needed for where we paddled). But it never struck me as "fast" and I wonder if Swift is struggling a bit to position this boat within their line-up. I think it's an alternative to the Northstar Phoenix and Hemlock SRT (high versatility, decent flatwater speed or maybe "good for a river boat", comforting volume and depth, very high river capability).
 
04/13/2023 10:05AM  
justpaddlin: "I had a Bell Wildfire that I should have kept.


I used to paddle a friend's Curtis Dragonfly occasionally and it struck me as a comfy all around boat with a ton of river capability (more than needed for where we paddled). But it never struck me as "fast" and I wonder if Swift is struggling a bit to position this boat within their line-up. I think it's an alternative to the Northstar Phoenix and Hemlock SRT (high versatility, decent flatwater speed or maybe "good for a river boat", comforting volume and depth, very high river capability). "


There are limiting production of the Dragonfly to 15 boats, and it sounds like it is only for 2023.
 
NikonF5user
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04/14/2023 05:48AM  
Any idea what this is on the Dragonfly image from Swift's website? Looks almost like a kneeling thwart, but that wouldn't make sense on a solo adjacent to the seat. Clearly not a carrying yoke, and too close for any type of foot bar...

 
NikonF5user
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04/14/2023 06:24AM  
NikonF5user: "Any idea what this is on the Dragonfly image from Swift's website? Looks almost like a kneeling thwart, but that wouldn't make sense on a solo adjacent to the seat. Clearly not a carrying yoke, and too close for any type of foot bar...


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Ugh - had I taken the two seconds the read the caption; it's a tumpline...
 
justpaddlin
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04/14/2023 09:02AM  
Frenchy19: "
justpaddlin: "I had a Bell Wildfire that I should have kept.



I used to paddle a friend's Curtis Dragonfly occasionally and it struck me as a comfy all around boat with a ton of river capability (more than needed for where we paddled). But it never struck me as "fast" and I wonder if Swift is struggling a bit to position this boat within their line-up. I think it's an alternative to the Northstar Phoenix and Hemlock SRT (high versatility, decent flatwater speed or maybe "good for a river boat", comforting volume and depth, very high river capability). "



There are limiting production of the Dragonfly to 15 boats, and it sounds like it is only for 2023."


That's interesting. Do you know why only 15 boats? I think the Curtis and Colden Dragonflies are already pretty rare so a Swift Dragonfly sounds like a nice prize for a canoe collector.
 
NikonF5user
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04/14/2023 10:06AM  

That's interesting. Do you know why only 15 boats? I think the Curtis and Colden Dragonflies are already pretty rare so a Swift Dragonfly sounds like a nice prize for a canoe collector. "


On the YouTube introduction they mentioned that the mold is not in the best condition, and would only last through 15 or 16 boats...
 
04/14/2023 12:53PM  
NikonF5user: "

That's interesting. Do you know why only 15 boats? I think the Curtis and Colden Dragonflies are already pretty rare so a Swift Dragonfly sounds like a nice prize for a canoe collector. "



On the YouTube introduction they mentioned that the mold is not in the best condition, and would only last through 15 or 16 boats..."


It's a great little video with some interesting history on the molds!

YouTube Swift Dragonfly and Wildfire
 
04/14/2023 12:57PM  
NikonF5user: "
NikonF5user: "Any idea what this is on the Dragonfly image from Swift's website? Looks almost like a kneeling thwart, but that wouldn't make sense on a solo adjacent to the seat. Clearly not a carrying yoke, and too close for any type of foot bar...



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Ugh - had I taken the two seconds the read the caption; it's a tumpline..."


I also missed that text-and I have never seen a tumpline used on a canoe.
 
justpaddlin
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04/15/2023 04:48PM  
Frenchy19: "
NikonF5user: "

That's interesting. Do you know why only 15 boats? I think the Curtis and Colden Dragonflies are already pretty rare so a Swift Dragonfly sounds like a nice prize for a canoe collector. "




On the YouTube introduction they mentioned that the mold is not in the best condition, and would only last through 15 or 16 boats..."


It's a great little video with some interesting history on the molds!

YouTube Swift Dragonfly and Wildfire "


Thanks for sharing. Great video for sure. I love the respect paid to Dave Curtis. Also like the part where Bill lifts the hull and says "look how rounded the hull is" and sets it down before the camera can see it.
 
pswith5
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04/16/2023 06:56AM  
Frenchy19: "
NikonF5user: "
NikonF5user: "Any idea what this is on the Dragonfly image from Swift's website? Looks almost like a kneeling thwart, but that wouldn't make sense on a solo adjacent to the seat. Clearly not a carrying yoke, and too close for any type of foot bar...



"




Ugh - had I taken the two seconds the read the caption; it's a tumpline..."



I also missed that text-and I have never seen a tumpline used on a canoe."
my daughter who has taken several trips, always called it a dork-strap instead of tump line...
 
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