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LuvMyBell
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02/27/2013 08:30AM  
I came across this video on hammock suspension and quickly purchased the rappel rings. Wow, lightning fast, easily adjustable, and strong.

Does anyone else use this method? Rappel Rings Suspension
 
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RainGearRight
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02/27/2013 08:49AM  
This is what I use on all my hammocks even the ENO
Scrub video to 1:55

Wrap the strap around the tree and clip it back to its self. Done.

Looks pretty similar to the first part of the video you linked.
 
OBX2Kayak
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02/27/2013 10:03AM  
quote RainGearRight: "This is what I use on all my hammocks even the ENO
Scrub video to 1:55


Wrap the strap around the tree and clip it back to its self. Done.

Looks pretty similar to the first part of the video you linked. "

That's the same setup that I use.
 
02/27/2013 10:47AM  
+1
 
MagicPaddler
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02/27/2013 04:40PM  
I have the blackbird “Adjustable Webbing Suspension” But instead of using a carabineer I use “Dutch Clips”. Makes for a fast light setup and it easy to pull from the side of the tree which allows me to move the hang point by the width of the tree. Dutch Clips Link
 
02/28/2013 06:56PM  
quote MagicPaddler: "I have the blackbird “Adjustable Webbing Suspension” But instead of using a carabineer I use “Dutch Clips”. Makes for a fast light setup and it easy to pull from the side of the tree which allows me to move the hang point by the width of the tree. Dutch Clips Link "


I have the same system but just use a carabiner. I remember looking at the Dutch Clips but didn't think they would be any faster or tighter than the carabiner. Are they? I also thought that the carabiner stays attached to one end so it was one less thing I had to worry about losing.

I'm interested to know how much of a difference the dutch clips make.
 
MagicPaddler
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02/28/2013 07:22PM  
I have used both the carabineer and the dutch clips. I put a couple of stitches in my web strap behind the dutch clip so it will not come off of the strap. The clip is lighter, faster and more compact than the carabineer. Now lets get real here the Carabineer is already small and light so in the overall scheme of things how much do you save. Both can be used to hang from the side of the tree but the clips seems to be a little easier.

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In the picture you can see the tarp ridge line going directly over the camera while the hammock comes from the side of the tree.
 
02/28/2013 07:51PM  
I made my own style of "Dutch clips"and I like them better than carabineers but I have a complete machine shop to use. Dutch cuts his out on a water jet but I did mine in a wire edm. I also put a couple of stitches in the webbing to make sure they stay on.



I may have a pair or two left around here if you would like a set.
 
RainGearRight
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02/28/2013 08:18PM  
Kevin, I got a set of those clips from you late last year but haven't used them yet. Any idea on the weight limit? I'm 260 and can't take sudden falls as well as I used to.
 
02/28/2013 09:15PM  
I dont think you will break them.
 
rookie in 03
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03/01/2013 05:39AM  
Kevin gave me a set as well last fall. I have only used them twice, but they are very strong. I don't see any problem for you. I weighed 226 at the time.
 
MagicPaddler
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03/01/2013 07:11AM  
My Dutch Clips are the old style without the little tang that is at the closed end. This tang keep the strap from coming out to the open side tang. My clip came with a warning that if the strap was not all the way to the back they could break. The stitching I put in the web strap was suggested on the warning to prevent the strap from slipping. I hang my hammock with less than a 30° angle which puts more stress on the suspension and I have had no problems. I think they are plenty strong.
 
03/01/2013 12:32PM  
LMB - The Garda Hitch to which you refer has a compressive degradation issue when used with spectra/dymeema line. It is not recommended for use with Amsteel, Dynaglide, Lash-It, or Zing-It.
I used that set-up for a couple months a few years back and can attest to the degradation of Amsteel 7/64".
 
MagicPaddler
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03/01/2013 12:48PM  
Jcavenagh
Can you elaborate? Do the rings degrade or the line? Is the problem related to the area where the line slips against the rings? Do you think Zing-it would work over a pulley?
 
LuvMyBell
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03/01/2013 05:05PM  
quote jcavenagh: "LMB - The Garda Hitch to which you refer has a compressive degradation issue when used with spectra/dymeema line. It is not recommended for use with Amsteel, Dynaglide, Lash-It, or Zing-It.
I used that set-up for a couple months a few years back and can attest to the degradation of Amsteel 7/64"."


I've read about that issue and decided to go with the Omega Pacific model. The are perfectly round with no edges to wear on the rope.

I use this setup on my Clark Hammock and I'm not sure what kind of rope they use but after 3 years (@ 25 nights per year)the ropes on my NX-150 show no signs of wear. The ropes on my new Clark Flex 180 are the same so I expect no issues when I start using it this year.

I've been thinking about replace my ropes on the NX-150 (now my backup) with the amsteel whoppie slings. I'll monitor the wear after my son uses it a few times.

From what I can tell, the rappel rings work with rope and with flat straps.
 
The Lorax
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03/02/2013 07:38AM  
I also have a set of Kevin's clips and they work great!

I like WB's webbing suspension system. Clip, zip, clip, zip and I'm all set. It doesn't get easier or faster than that.
I'm looking at lightening and reducing the bulk on my Clark system now.
 
03/02/2013 11:35AM  
The spectra/dyneema line gets compressed between the descending rings.
The compression leaves a flat spot in the rope. Maybe it doesn't weaken the line right away, but it looks to me as if it will eventually. I just stopped using it because I was uncomfortable with how it looked to me.

Then I eventually got a WBBB and I just use the stock suspension on that.

Zing-It will work on a pulley. I have used small pulleys for hanging the kitchen bag with Zing-It. The problem is that Zing-It, being so narrow, hurts my hands if I don't have gloves on.
 
MagicPaddler
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03/02/2013 12:17PM  
Thanks Jcavenagh. I was considering using Zingit to hang my food bag. Yes always use gloves when handling those small lines.
 
BananaHammock
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03/03/2013 10:14AM  
I use rappel rings and a biner to hang my hammock. I would move to wager its the fastest way to hang a hammock, if it was a race I could have my hammock taught in just under a minute. Not to mention you can easilly tighten you line with this setup. The biners and rings I used last year were steel from our local farm and fleet. Found out this year they weight .94# , this year I picked ip some aluminum biners and rings, im down to .26# woohoo
 
toddhunter
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03/04/2013 10:54AM  
+1 on Kevin's hook. Thanks
 
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