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Boundary Waters Quetico Forum Group Forum: BWCA Hanging Webbing and cam buckle? |
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11/17/2014 11:40AM
Does anyone have experience hanging your hammock with nylon webbing and a cam buckle? This seems like it might be a very quick and fairly light weight option? Would the cam buckle be prone to slipping (especially if the web gets wet and/or cold)?
Currently I have a hennessy and use the tree-huggers and rope with knots. The knots hold well, but if I guess wrong on height, it's a pain to undo the knot and re-tie (especially when it's cold).
I know there's other products on the market like this:
https://www.eaglesnestoutfittersinc.com/product/ASX001.html
However, this seems like twice as much webbing as is necessary, and you are limited to discrete attach points that might not be quite right for tension. Also, I already own plenty of webbing and cam buckles, so this is the cheapest option for me.
Thoughts?
Currently I have a hennessy and use the tree-huggers and rope with knots. The knots hold well, but if I guess wrong on height, it's a pain to undo the knot and re-tie (especially when it's cold).
I know there's other products on the market like this:
https://www.eaglesnestoutfittersinc.com/product/ASX001.html
However, this seems like twice as much webbing as is necessary, and you are limited to discrete attach points that might not be quite right for tension. Also, I already own plenty of webbing and cam buckles, so this is the cheapest option for me.
Thoughts?
11/17/2014 12:05PM
Webbing yes, cam buckles no.
My webbing has a sewn loop at one end with a climbing rated carabiner, around the tree and clip onto itself. I have a pair of rings attached to each end of the hammock. Lace the webbing through the rings and pull snug. I do put a slippery overhand knot in the webbing and cinch it against the rings to keep them from slipping.
My webbing has a sewn loop at one end with a climbing rated carabiner, around the tree and clip onto itself. I have a pair of rings attached to each end of the hammock. Lace the webbing through the rings and pull snug. I do put a slippery overhand knot in the webbing and cinch it against the rings to keep them from slipping.
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11/17/2014 05:47PM
I actually use the regular Atlas straps (non-XL). They are a bit heavier than other options, but I'm living with that so far.
Others certainly have used a setup similar to what you describe, however most are a sliding or separating cinch buckle rather than the knurled cam ones, as shown in the Dutchware link and this Warbonnet demonstration.
Others certainly have used a setup similar to what you describe, however most are a sliding or separating cinch buckle rather than the knurled cam ones, as shown in the Dutchware link and this Warbonnet demonstration.
11/17/2014 06:43PM
I have a setup similar to the complete setup in bwacsolo’s post above and love it. My setup is older and has a older style of buckle and if the web is not straight going through the buckle it will slip. It has never slipped on me if I had it straight. I have heard many times that nylon straps will stretch requiring readjustment in the middle of the night.
If you have suitable straps and a buckle try it and let us know.
If you have suitable straps and a buckle try it and let us know.
The question of the day is Freedom or Socialism?? MagicPaddler
11/17/2014 09:26PM
My old hammock was cheap with no real suspension, just some loops to clip to and very short. More than once when canoe camping I'd just bring along the roof straps from hauling the canoe so that I could reach around any size tree and easily adjust the length. Never had a problem with slippage.
I ended up giving that hammock to a friend and when we were car camping on the west coast this summer ended up using the same trick so she could find a place to hang.
Alan
I ended up giving that hammock to a friend and when we were car camping on the west coast this summer ended up using the same trick so she could find a place to hang.
Alan
11/19/2014 11:14AM
I replaced the suspensions on all three of my hammocks with whoopie slings made from 7/64" Amsteel Blue and use polyester tree huggers (doesn't stretch) with one loop on the end to go around the tree and use a marlin spike hitch with a carbon fiber toggle to hold the hugger and whoopie sling together. Infinitely adjustable and very lightweight.
As for your OP: I've never tried the cam buckle, or any other hardware as I was trying to get away from added weight.
As for your OP: I've never tried the cam buckle, or any other hardware as I was trying to get away from added weight.
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02/25/2016 11:38PM
For no-fuss simplicity and adjustability and speed of setup/takedown, My favorite is the webbing/cinch buckle combination. Straps go around trees, cinch buckles at each end of hammock: adjust away! As a bonus you have a built-in drip line on the hammock ends. The Titanium ones from dutch are light and solid.
The only downside is that you are limited to the length of your webbing. 10' straps fit 85% of the hangs I find: For the occasion where you need a little extra to reach a far tree, I just break out a spare length of amsteel.
The only downside is that you are limited to the length of your webbing. 10' straps fit 85% of the hangs I find: For the occasion where you need a little extra to reach a far tree, I just break out a spare length of amsteel.
"Everybody needs beauty as well as bread; places to play in and pray in, where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul" -John Muir
04/13/2016 12:49PM
Bump with new question...
I bought the cinch buckle system a while ago and it's working great. Quick and holds. I have a related question on the tarp.
Does anyone rig the tarp to the hammock suspension webbing using a klemheist knot in para cord? Currently I'm still tying the tarp lines to the trees, but I'd like to get all of the rigging onto the hammock suspension for ease of setup/takedown.
I'm not sure on the success of a klemheist to webbing using para cord. Also, are there sag issues when tying the tarp directly to the hammock suspension.
I rigged it up and it looks like it will work, but haven't tried it in any high wind yet.
Let me know what you think...thanks!
I bought the cinch buckle system a while ago and it's working great. Quick and holds. I have a related question on the tarp.
Does anyone rig the tarp to the hammock suspension webbing using a klemheist knot in para cord? Currently I'm still tying the tarp lines to the trees, but I'd like to get all of the rigging onto the hammock suspension for ease of setup/takedown.
I'm not sure on the success of a klemheist to webbing using para cord. Also, are there sag issues when tying the tarp directly to the hammock suspension.
I rigged it up and it looks like it will work, but haven't tried it in any high wind yet.
Let me know what you think...thanks!
04/14/2016 05:34PM
Use webbing around the tree to a mountaineering carabiner. Whoopie directly to the carabiner.
Paracord stretches. And I don't trust it. Use amsteel. You will want to check weight ratings on zing it or lash it cordage, but I'm pretty sure it's rated as well. Amsteel is the ticket for hammocks. Lash it for tarps. Light weight, thin, and doesn't stretch.
Paracord stretches. And I don't trust it. Use amsteel. You will want to check weight ratings on zing it or lash it cordage, but I'm pretty sure it's rated as well. Amsteel is the ticket for hammocks. Lash it for tarps. Light weight, thin, and doesn't stretch.
04/15/2016 06:33AM
I used Paracord on my hammock ridgeline for years and like Exo says it stretches. I hang lots of gear from the tarp ridge line so I like it tight to reduce sag. I switched out my paracord ridge line for Zing-it. The zing-it held up the tarp better than the paracord but it is so small it hurt my hands to pull it tight. I now use 7/64 AmSteel.
The question of the day is Freedom or Socialism?? MagicPaddler
04/28/2016 04:32PM
Another reason to keep separate. Tarps almost always have moisture on them in the a.m. I keep my tarp separate form everything else so the hammock, UQ, TQ or sleeping bag, all stay dry.
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04/28/2016 05:59PM
yeah, pitch your tarp separately, nice and tight.
...and then you can swing and bounce around in the hammock without disturbing anything.
Another plus on separately: breaking/making camp in the rain. Put up the tarp first/take down the tarp last and you stay dry while arranging everything else.
...and then you can swing and bounce around in the hammock without disturbing anything.
Another plus on separately: breaking/making camp in the rain. Put up the tarp first/take down the tarp last and you stay dry while arranging everything else.
"Everybody needs beauty as well as bread; places to play in and pray in, where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul" -John Muir
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