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TreeBlazer
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01/19/2015 06:03PM  
Hi everybody. Just bought my first hammock. I got an eno jungle nest. Now I am looking into suspension setups. With so many options out there, I can really use some help. What are your setups you use and why? Also. How much did it cost? Ease of setup? How do you stop rainwater from running down the suspension? And any other hints/suggestions. Thanks as always! Can't wait to hang in the bwca!
 
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ECpizza
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01/19/2015 09:45PM  
Straps for the tree are a must. Period.

I converted my Hennessy to use woopie (or whoopie) slings. Many vendors. I occasionally struggled with mine on the trail, but mostly easy to adjust on the fly.

I've been looking at the ENO slap straps. They look like the easiest I've seen.


For rainwater, tie a shoelace on the line, under the fly.


My big learnings so far... (First year hammocker)

Make sure foot end is higher than head end. How much is a matter of trial and error.

Learn about 30* hanging angle (never quite works right for me, still working on it)

UNDER INSULATION IS A MUST. Exactly what form that takes for you is a matter of taste and budget. Research under quilts, reflectex (and it's better sub category of car sun sheilds), pads, space blankets; and if you have a Hennessy, their Super Shelter. This is the one place you will spend the most time and money to get right... Unless you are the rare hanger that likes using a pad.

Become an expert at hanging a fly/tarp.

I did not save as much space or weight as I initially thought I would. It cost more to start out than I expected. I had some hanging challenges on my first wilderness trip, and really should have gone to ground at least once.

But...

Once you sleep in a hammock, you will do anything to stay off the ground.the first couple nights I didn't sleep in a hammock were because of "a poor hang" where my head was higher than feet, and my under warmth was insufficent. Once I solved those problems, everything was great.
 
MagicPaddler
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01/20/2015 07:41AM  
I have a cinch buckle system similar to this Dutchware CinchBuckle ,strap and DutchClip I think it is the best. The buckles act as a drip ring so no need for anything else to keep water from running down the suspension. It costs about $40.
Watch the video at the bottom of the page in the link above it is only 30 seconds long.
 
bwcasolo
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01/20/2015 05:54PM  
quote MagicPaddler: "I have a cinch buckle system similar to this Dutchware CinchBuckle ,strap and DutchClip I think it is the best. The buckles act as a drip ring so no need for anything else to keep water from running down the suspension. It costs about $40.
Watch the video at the bottom of the page in the link above it is only 30 seconds long."

I have this exact setup on my hh expedition asym. I love the fast set-up. I had whoopee slings for a few years with biners and straps, but the whoopies were showing age and I went with the straps. the buckles hold tight and the straps I got from the same website do not stretch.
 
01/20/2015 06:02PM  
Me too. This is so simple and easy to adjust. My suspension is the stock buckles from Warbonnet plus Dutch clips at the tree, which is essentially the same as what MP shows above. Make sure to use Polyester straps, not Nylon. Nylon stretches TOO MUCH.

P.S. Don't worry about finding good trees in BW. Further north, in places like Wabakimi and WCPP trees are predominantly spindly black spruce. Hanging can be a challenge up there sometimes.
 
01/20/2015 09:49PM  
Here is a Marlin Spike Whoopie set-up. Arrowhead Equipment
 
AlfalfaMale
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01/21/2015 10:26AM  
I made my own whoopie slings and ridgelines for a couple of my hammocks. And with those, I use straps and toggles I ordered from AHE.

But most of the time I grab my Hennessy that has the Dutchware Cinch Buckle, strap and Dutch Clip that MagicPaddler referenced. It's just so quick and easy. If you're counting grams yes, it weighs a bit more, but I'm all about easy.
 
WindChill
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01/21/2015 12:01PM  
I use polyester straps, a carabiner and descender rings for my suspension.

Straps have a loop sewn in one end that the carabiner goes on. Biner goes around the tree and clips back onto the strap. The other end of the strap goes to the rings for a nice fast adjustment. I put a slippery half-hitch in the tail of the strap and snug it against the rings to keep things from slipping. The rings are under the tarp and act as a drip loop.

As ECpizza said, you'll want some kind of insulation under you. Im still using a thermarest with a home-made "segmented pad extender" - a sleeve that holds the pad plus a 6-8 wide strip of closed-cell foam pad on each side. The side wings keep the shoulders from getting cold.

 
markaroberts
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01/21/2015 05:55PM  
I went with Python straps. They are straps with loops every 8 inches or so. Just wrap around the tree, pull through the end loop and hook hammock to the closest loop with carabiner. Fully set up the hammock in 30 seconds.

http://kammok.com/products/python-straps

I have used all types of suspension systems. The Pythons are by far the easiest to set up as well as to adjust. They also eliminate the need for tree huggers, woopies, etc.
 
mikea
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01/21/2015 07:05PM  
I just use the eno atlas straps, similar to the Python, but mor loops, kind of like a daisy chain...I made my own straps in the past, and tried other things, but it doesn't get much easier than the atlas straps.... They are a little heavy and I might not use them backpacking, but canoe camping, no problem.


Mike
 
markaroberts
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01/21/2015 07:37PM  
They are basically the same thing. I have used carbiners and rapelling rings, different kinds of knots, whoopie type rigs. The daisy chain straps are the way to go. The Pythons are 10 feet long I think. No problem finding two trees to tie up to. Adjustment is easy. Another plus, I hook up the rain fly (a Hennessy Hex) to loops higher up on the straps with two more carabiners. Very quick set up.
 
TreeBlazer
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01/26/2015 01:10PM  
Thanks everybody for the information. I took it all into consideration and decided to just buy the ENO atlas straps. They seem to be cheap enough and make the setup very easy. I like the ease of setup so others (like my wife) can easily use it while at home or camping near home. Also, for use while canoeing, I don't think the weight difference will be enough to worry about. Probably change my mind on one of those long portages.... Thanks again.
 
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