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wvevans
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04/30/2015 12:07PM  
Rookie question. I am going with a Eno junglenest Hammock this year. I have never used a hammock before. I see you guys say here that I need to get something for underneath me . Between the two witch would be the better choice. My closed cell foam pad I use for Winter Camping or my old Scout Thermorest pad ? Ill be using my 10 degree Bag. My closed cell foam pad is much lighter so I would rather use that. Will one slide around more than the other ?

 
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04/30/2015 12:56PM  
The best teacher is experience. It will be good for you to hang your system and try it out a few times. I recall spending nearly 8 hours fiddling with the angle of the hang, how taught to pull the hammock and multiple other issues including trying every pad I owned before settling on one. Attempting that learning curve once into the BWCA would be a real hassle, especially if that first night it is rainy or very windy.

You definitely need insulation below. Take a nap on any mid 60's to 70's day, especially with a wind, and with nothing beneath you a cold butt syndrome will develop. More insulation for colder temps, obviously. As I am sure you have read on other posts, the preferred route is an underquilt. It took me three years to justify getting one, wish I had not waited. Your bag is a great overquilt, but compression of your body, particularly at the pressure points, will eliminate most insulating value. Your bag may be too warm mid summer.
 
ManBehindThePlan
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04/30/2015 04:02PM  
quote wvevans: "...My closed cell foam pad I use for Winter Camping or my old Scout Thermorest pad ?... "


I'd tell you that bringing whichever is lighter is the answer here. Both will do an adequate job of separating your back side from the wind.

If I may, a truck windshield reflector (Walmart has them in automotive, looks like silver bubble wrap) underneath it will take you quite far down in temperatures. I did it for years as well, even in a bottom-entry Hennessy Hammock - this required lots of wriggling to get settled, and a lot of reshuffling when answering a midnight call).

Most start out the way you're suggesting, and it's not bad - but you'll understand the limitations quickly.

ENO has a nice, inexpensive underquilt available too - I assume it's some polyester fill, judging from the weight (1.5lb) and price ($99). Down will cost you must more...

Having the insulation out of the way, sleeping right on the fabric, with a nice topquilt (think sleeping bag just tied up at the feet) has given hammocking during the winter a whole new emphasis for me.
 
04/30/2015 07:54PM  
I am new to using an underquilt. I have used a closed cell pad for years and it worked just fine...until I hit 27 degrees one LONG night. It was not enough. I now have an underquilt when the temp is going to be in the 30s or below. I use the ENO Vulcan.
 
Savage Voyageur
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04/30/2015 08:36PM  
First your 10 deg bag will compress to nothing beneath you so you will need a pad or underquilt or you will get cold. If an underquilt is out of the question for you I would make a pad. You take a thin sleeping pad or a yoga mat and add two sections to the shoulder areas. It will sort of look like a tee when done. You need more pad in the upper body area. You just use duct tape to join them. Cheap, easy, warm. It stays in place because it's rubber not slippery nylon. This will work in most trips during summer or late spring, early fall. I have an underquilt good to 20 deg for camping. It works great and never been cold.
 
wvevans
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04/30/2015 09:21PM  
Thanks a bunch guys . I just ordered my jungle Nest. Parigus gives you a 10% coupon from their catolog before the start of your trip if you are renting gear from them so with the shipping I bought it for the same cost as everyone sells if for and I didn't have to leave the house. I hope I like sleeping in it as much as you guys do. My 1st trip of the year will be a 13 day solo during the 1st two weeks of June so I need to figure out how to use it without freezing to death. After my winter solo in january my back and hips were so sore I told myself it was time to try something else or I couldnt go anymore and that wasn't happening.
 
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