I am looking to cut some weight from my ENO Doublenest, replacing the original loop, carabiners, and Atlas straps with a whoopie sling set up. I did a search, but didn't find what I was looking for.
How long are the tree straps you guys are using?
what are the distance ranges on your whoopie slings? (ie adjust from 3 ft to 6 ft)

when picking your trees to hang from, how far apart is ideal, how far is too far, and how close is too close?

Or, what are the work arounds when you get a site with less than ideal trees?

There are so many variables that I need to hear from people that have hung there frequently.

Thanks for the input, I don't want to take 9 foot tree straps if they aren't needed!

I use Warbonnet standard straps. I think they are 7 or 8 ft long, but these don't use whoopies.
I have found that trees 15 ft apart are ideal.
On hammockforums.net folks report that whoopies that adjust between 3-6 ft work very well. I suppose you could go a bit longer, but I don't think there is much advantage.
For tree huggers I would think 4-4.5 ft would suffice for most situations. If you need more length for a very large tree you can always use rope to extend them at the hammock side.

If your trees are far apart you can use a stick to get the straps up higher on the trees. That will allow the hammock to stay p off the ground.

I personally hang with the Dutchware whoopie hook system
but instead of the standard straps I went with 8' kevlar tree straps and dutch buckles.
I've managed to reach pretty far with this system as you can see here. .
It's just a matter of how high up the tree you can reach to place your straps. If you go this route, when you order your Amsteel continuous loops be sure to pick a different color for your foot end and head end so you can quickly and easily tell them apart when you are setting up.

quote unshavenman: "I personally hang with the Dutchware whoopie hook system
but instead of the standard straps I went with 8' kevlar tree straps and dutch buckles.
I've managed to reach pretty far with this system as you can see here. .
It's just a matter of how high up the tree you can reach to place your straps. If you go this route, when you order your Amsteel continuous loops be sure to pick a different color for your foot end and head end so you can quickly and easily tell them apart when you are setting up."

Interesting, as that is the same set-up I was considering. Dutch has several options for straps, in various lengths, and with or without the buckle. Do you think 5 foot straps are long enough for most situations, or do you think I should go with longer ones?
My initial thought was 5 foot dyneema/poly with buckles, but I wouldn't want to get out there and constantly struggle to find a spot to hang.
I just checked Dutch's site, adding two feet to each strap only raises the weight .7 oz. I guess I would rather have the flexibility of longer straps.

I think I'm using Dutch's ten or twelve foot Kevlar straps. The Kevlar is so light that the extra length adds negligible extra weight.

I use 10' Kammock straps. Wasn't unusual to come on trees w/ too much girth (rarely up north) for the straps that came with the WBBB. So far, no longer a problem - knocking on wood.

quote gymcoachdon: "

quote unshavenman: "I personally hang with the Dutchware whoopie hook system
but instead of the standard straps I went with 8' kevlar tree straps and dutch buckles.
I've managed to reach pretty far with this system as you can see here. .
It's just a matter of how high up the tree you can reach to place your straps. If you go this route, when you order your Amsteel continuous loops be sure to pick a different color for your foot end and head end so you can quickly and easily tell them apart when you are setting up."

Interesting, as that is the same set-up I was considering. Dutch has several options for straps, in various lengths, and with or without the buckle. Do you think 5 foot straps are long enough for most situations, or do you think I should go with longer ones?
My initial thought was 5 foot dyneema/poly with buckles, but I wouldn't want to get out there and constantly struggle to find a spot to hang.
I just checked Dutch's site, adding two feet to each strap only raises the weight .7 oz. I guess I would rather have the flexibility of longer straps."

Well, five foot straps wouldn't have worked for me in the situation I pictured and the kevlar straps weigh next to nothing, so I would go longer. Also, the continuous loops at the hammock ends allow you to attach directly to the kevlar straps if you don't have enough distance between trees to use the whoopie slings.

Straps being longer than needed isn't to bad. You can always wrap them around a smaller tree. They will stay in place. If they are to short, that makes it a little tough.

Whoopies I got from warbonnet are long enough and I haven't had an issue reaching. If you need more reach, a length of extra amsteel or and knowledge of knots and toggles will extend your reach.

The perfect distance, depends on your fly. You want enough space between trees so your fly fits between them.

With that said, you also need enough, so when trees arent the perfect distance, you can still hang comfortable

I did the same thing with my ENO hammock. I threw away those heave steel clips and strung the Whoopie slings right in the same place. I made my own tree straps itch 1" wide straps and use Dutch clips on the tree. The straps are each 12' long. I look for a couple of trees and then see if I can get a 30 * deg rope hang.

Thanks for all the input. I received my gear from Dutch, and currently have it set up in my backyard. I went with the 7 foot dyneema/polypro straps with Dutch clips and the whoopie hook set-up. I haven't weighed it yet, but I think I cut 3/4 of a pound off the weight, and added a lot of versatility to the set-up.
I have two large Silver Maples about 20 feet apart, and no problem setting it up. These are much larger than the trees I found at the sites I have been to, so I feel pretty good about it. I also set up and seam sealed my new CCS 1.1 10x12 yellow tarp, with the ridgeline stuff sack. Add to that the fact that I finally found a Bell Magic and brought it home Sunday, and I have had a really good week!

I still use the straps that came with my WBBB XLC. I've never had a problem finding trees that are too big or too far apart to not make them work. I do use whoopies with my pack hammock where the trees can be a bit closer and I don't need long lines.

I took down the hammock and weighed the components. Switching out the carabiners and rope in the gathered end with a Whoopie hook system and continuous loop, and replacing the atlas straps with the Dyneema/polypro 7 foot tree straps with Dutch clips saved a total of 10.4 ounces.
I was previously using a Kelty Noahs 9 tarp, switching to a CCS 1.1 10x12 with the ridgeline stuff sack gave me substantially more coverage, and still saved me a couple ounces, even with a longer ridge line, and six 20 foot tie out lines pre-attached. Much more convenient, and should make for a quick deploy of the tarp in inclement weather.

quote unshavenman: "I personally hang with the Dutchware whoopie hook system
but instead of the standard straps I went with 8' kevlar tree straps and dutch buckles.
I've managed to reach pretty far with this system as you can see here. .
It's just a matter of how high up the tree you can reach to place your straps. If you go this route, when you order your Amsteel continuous loops be sure to pick a different color for your foot end and head end so you can quickly and easily tell them apart when you are setting up."

That uq looks cozy. Which one is that?

quote pilot: "

quote unshavenman: "I personally hang with the Dutchware whoopie hook system
but instead of the standard straps I went with 8' kevlar tree straps and dutch buckles.
I've managed to reach pretty far with this system as you can see here. .
It's just a matter of how high up the tree you can reach to place your straps. If you go this route, when you order your Amsteel continuous loops be sure to pick a different color for your foot end and head end so you can quickly and easily tell them apart when you are setting up."

That uq looks cozy. Which one is that?"

That's the Hammock Gear Incubator 20
It's also available in a less expensive Incubator Econ 20.
I think the Incubator is possibly the most popular underquilt out there.....

I use two 12' straps I sewed myself; with cinch buckles on the ends of the hammock. This works for 90% of the hangs I attempt. I like the speed and simplicity of that rig. I also have two 8' spliced "dogbones" of amsteel with to extend the reach if needed.