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05/06/2010 09:26AM
I am planning my first trip to Quetico this year and have read on other posts about some of the regulations that have to be followed. Where do I find the specific watercraft regulations? I thought I read that life jackets have to be certain colors (red or yellow) and that a sponge/bailer is needed to be in the canoe. Can someone point me to the website for this information?
05/06/2010 09:39AM
The short answer first. PFDs do NOT have to be a specific color. Bailing sponges are required, but those are common sense accessories on any canoe trip anyway.
I'm not sure how long those regs have been in place, but I've been going to Quetico since 1986 and have never been checked for my bailing sponge or anything else.
I'll do some checking to find the regulations in print (I'm pretty sure I have them someplace). Maybe someone will beat me to it.
Where are you going? Which entry point?
I'm not sure how long those regs have been in place, but I've been going to Quetico since 1986 and have never been checked for my bailing sponge or anything else.
I'll do some checking to find the regulations in print (I'm pretty sure I have them someplace). Maybe someone will beat me to it.
Where are you going? Which entry point?
"Keep close to Nature's heart, yourself; and break clear away, once in a while, and climb a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean." ~ John Muir
05/06/2010 12:17PM
I discussed the sponge requirement with a ranger one year and am fairly certain I learned from him and confirmed with our outfitter that only Canadians have to have the sponge, not US citizen's in Canada. I'm sure if that is incorrect someone here will tell us.
Never have heard of PFD color. They are really much more concerned about trash, invasive species of flora and fauna, and now barbless hooks.
Never have heard of PFD color. They are really much more concerned about trash, invasive species of flora and fauna, and now barbless hooks.
05/06/2010 01:40PM
Foreign pleasure craft (pleasure craft that are licensed or registered in a country other than Canada) need to comply with equipment requirements of the country in which the vessel is usually kept.
"Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after"
~ Henry David Thoreau
05/06/2010 02:13PM
Found it in the Canadian regs and this exception applying to the section where a means for bailing is required:
(2) This Part does not apply in respect of a pleasure craft that is operated in Canada if it is ordinarily kept in a country other than Canada and it complies with any licensing, registration and equipment requirements of that country.
As best I can tell, Minnesota does not require this,so if you rent from outfitter in Ely as I do and go to Quetico, bailing sponge is optional.
Maybe it's a good idea, though I've not missed it. A sponge or pail is not much use if you capsize - one more thing to get lost - and I can't recall a situation in a canoe in Quetico where I was so far from shore that a small leak was anything to be worried about. Probably the bets rule is if your not comfortable and sure you'll be OK, stay in camp.
(2) This Part does not apply in respect of a pleasure craft that is operated in Canada if it is ordinarily kept in a country other than Canada and it complies with any licensing, registration and equipment requirements of that country.
As best I can tell, Minnesota does not require this,so if you rent from outfitter in Ely as I do and go to Quetico, bailing sponge is optional.
Maybe it's a good idea, though I've not missed it. A sponge or pail is not much use if you capsize - one more thing to get lost - and I can't recall a situation in a canoe in Quetico where I was so far from shore that a small leak was anything to be worried about. Probably the bets rule is if your not comfortable and sure you'll be OK, stay in camp.
05/06/2010 07:56PM
quote BillConner01: "A sponge or pail is not much use if you capsize... and I can't recall a situation in a canoe in Quetico where I was so far from shore that a small leak was anything to be worried about."
It doesn't rain on your trips? Of course a sponge isn't going to help if you swamp.
We've been out fishing or traveling where a storm came up fairly quickly and it was a deluge. Because the canoe is one giant rain collector, if we hadn't had a sponge, we would have had to pull over and empty the canoe. Excessive water in the canoe can really be a safety issue if too much is in there.
"Keep close to Nature's heart, yourself; and break clear away, once in a while, and climb a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean." ~ John Muir
05/07/2010 07:38AM
"It doesn't rain on your trips? Of course a sponge isn't going to help if you swamp."
I hate to tell you but in maybe 75 days in Quetico, it has rained on two of then - and more a sprinkle - and one night it poured for a couple of hours - but the tent was fine. Now, you can either conclude I'm due or you can ask me to tell you when I'm going. :)
Good point though - I probably would pull over in that kind of rain and set up a tarp frankly. Doesn't seem like fun and that's why I'm there. And I have a sponge - but it seems to be the most often left in the car item.
I hate to tell you but in maybe 75 days in Quetico, it has rained on two of then - and more a sprinkle - and one night it poured for a couple of hours - but the tent was fine. Now, you can either conclude I'm due or you can ask me to tell you when I'm going. :)
Good point though - I probably would pull over in that kind of rain and set up a tarp frankly. Doesn't seem like fun and that's why I'm there. And I have a sponge - but it seems to be the most often left in the car item.
05/07/2010 08:14AM
quote BillConner01: "Now, you can either conclude I'm due or you can ask me to tell you when I'm going. :)
LOL... if THAT is all the rain you've had, you are DEFINITELY due one!
"Keep close to Nature's heart, yourself; and break clear away, once in a while, and climb a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean." ~ John Muir
05/07/2010 11:01AM
I think the only regulations they're ever going to pinch you on is not having a permit or fishing license, maybe pfd. The other "rules" like the sponge, rope, class X PFD, paddles or whatever petty thing you read are probably more like guidelines...should you take them? Sure, but are they going to fine you for not having them, or are they going to even ask? Doubtful.
Just like our immigration laws...should you come here legally? Well, yes. But if you don't...could you come over and pick potatoes, shingle my roof, and landscape my yard?
Just like our immigration laws...should you come here legally? Well, yes. But if you don't...could you come over and pick potatoes, shingle my roof, and landscape my yard?
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