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03/21/2018 03:35PM
OneMatch: "Lower Canyons of the Rio Grande, February, 2018. Rapids & campsite
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That trips on my list as well. I've done the Pecos River three times - the last 60 miles before it dumps into the Rio Grande just before the Amistad Reservoir. Planning on my fourth Pecos trip this fall.
03/22/2018 07:11AM
cburton103: "OneMatch: "Lower Canyons of the Rio Grande, February, eft" > "
That trips on my list as well. I've done the Pecos River three times - the last 60 miles before it dumps into the Rio Grande just before the Amistad Reservoir. Planning on my fourth Pecos trip this fall."
Chris, that sounds really cool. I'm curious as to the water level there this fall. I've been told the Rio Grande water level is too high for a canoe then due to summer rains. Of course the Rio is influenced by Mexican rivers (most notably the Rio Conchos) upstream. I might have to go back down and do both! Thanks in advance for the info.
We all have to believe in something. I believe I'll go paddle.
03/22/2018 08:22AM
I would highly recommend the Pecos. River flows are highly variable based on rainfall in the giant Pecos watershed. I've done it as low as 45 cfs and as high as about 120-130 cfs (still not a lot of water). I hear it's best between 200-300 cfs, but you have to get lucky to catch it at that rate. The Pecos is largely fed by spring fed creeks in its lower stretches when it's not raining.
The upper stretch of the Pecos that runs through most of Texas barely has any flow rate - certainly not enough flow or interesting scenery to make it enjoyable. The lower Pecos is fed by Independence Creek, which dumps in a fairly consistent 15 cfs. Then at 18 miles into the main southern stretch of the river Everett Canyon Spring dumps in about another 5-10 cfs depending on its flow. Another few springs dump in a few cfs each as you go along.
I've done trips in March, May and October. My next trip is planned for October. The flows tend to be 80-120 in October (less variable than other times of year) and the weather is typically still warm enough (70s to 80s during the day) to enjoy swimming but not as hot as the summer. The fishing has been best on my March trip, but it's been decent each other trip as well.
Who did you go through for your Lower Canyons of the Rio Grande trip?
The upper stretch of the Pecos that runs through most of Texas barely has any flow rate - certainly not enough flow or interesting scenery to make it enjoyable. The lower Pecos is fed by Independence Creek, which dumps in a fairly consistent 15 cfs. Then at 18 miles into the main southern stretch of the river Everett Canyon Spring dumps in about another 5-10 cfs depending on its flow. Another few springs dump in a few cfs each as you go along.
I've done trips in March, May and October. My next trip is planned for October. The flows tend to be 80-120 in October (less variable than other times of year) and the weather is typically still warm enough (70s to 80s during the day) to enjoy swimming but not as hot as the summer. The fishing has been best on my March trip, but it's been decent each other trip as well.
Who did you go through for your Lower Canyons of the Rio Grande trip?
03/24/2018 09:13AM
cburton103:
Who did you go through for your Lower Canyons of the Rio Grande trip?"
Northstar Canoes officially hosted and outfitted the trip in that they wanted to show off their new B-17 in ixp layup as an expedition canoe (A great boat!). Since they sponsor me and my music, I got invited (lucky me!). They had several outfitters and such along. A group of 12.
We used Far Flung in Terlingua to shuttle us and shuttle our awaiting vehicles.
Would love to see some pics from your Pecos trips. Did you have to carry in your water or was it okay to filter there?
Thanks!
We all have to believe in something. I believe I'll go paddle.
03/25/2018 09:42AM
Keep the pics coming! Heading out next week when it is my spring break. Either Mississippi or St. Croix River, will post pics then.
Beav, I would love to see the January Lake Superior pics!
Beav, I would love to see the January Lake Superior pics!
"The future ain't what it used to be" Yogi Berra
03/25/2018 10:10PM
Frenchy19: "Keep the pics coming! Heading out next week when it is my spring break. Either Mississippi or St. Croix River, will post pics then.
Beav, I would love to see the January Lake Superior pics!"
Are you a school teacher? Which district?
03/26/2018 11:02AM
OneMatch: "cburton103:
Who did you go through for your Lower Canyons of the Rio Grande trip?"
Would love to see some pics from your Pecos trips. Did you have to carry in your water or was it okay to filter there?"
It's ok to filter the water (it won't make you sick, despite what some people say), but it tastes salty enough to where it's pretty unpleasant to drink. We generally carry along a couple gallons per person and refill at a few springs along the way. Some aren't always running, so we filter out of the river as needed and cover up the taste with drink mixes.
The best spring is about 18 miles in (Everett Canyon, river left). There is Chinaberry spring around mile 33 or so I think, but it can be difficult to find back in the river cane. Often there will be groundwater or a seasonal spring at Painted Canyon around mile 45 or so. Most trips we drink 80% spring water or so.
I don't have many pictures of the Pecos on my work computer, but here are a couple that I have with me.
Lewis Canyon, Pecos River
Painted Canyon, Pecos River
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