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06/08/2024 06:14AM
I have a gen6 (2022) Outback and haul one canoe with ease.
Anyone get two canoes on one of these? How'd you do it?
Open to considering an aftermarket rack, also open to 2x4 engineering...this is something I would only do once or twice per year.
Anyone get two canoes on one of these? How'd you do it?
Open to considering an aftermarket rack, also open to 2x4 engineering...this is something I would only do once or twice per year.
"I don't care what you believe. I care what you can prove." -Philosopher & Mathematician JJJ
06/08/2024 07:53AM
I've done it with lashed down 2x4's. If I was going to do it twice a year and for any extended drive I would purchase the Thule long bars (I know they make a specific attachment for the Outback).
Watch your head getting into and out of the car.
Add 4 people and all their gear your Outback will not be quick off the blocks (compared to its normal "vigorous"acceleration) .
Watch your head getting into and out of the car.
Add 4 people and all their gear your Outback will not be quick off the blocks (compared to its normal "vigorous"acceleration) .
Nobody exists on purpose, nobody belongs anywhere, everybody’s going to die.
06/08/2024 08:37AM
I have a 2018 Outback but it is a model with normal Thule channels, not the big hinged ones. I was able to get 76" cross bars (at Canoecopia) and works well from 2 canoes. I'd probably try rigid conduit with pipe insulation instead of 2x4 but either should work.
06/08/2024 11:12AM
I drive Forester with 78" Yakima round cross-bars on the roof. They are not wider than the car itself (including side mirrors) and easily fit 2 regular canoes side-by-side. I replace end-caps on the bars with bright yellow tennis balls to protect people from hitting the bars.
"A man's got to know his limitations."
06/08/2024 01:31PM
EddyTurn: "I drive Forester with 78" Yakima round cross-bars on the roof. They are not wider than the car itself (including side mirrors) and easily fit 2 regular canoes side-by-side. I replace end-caps on the bars with bright yellow tennis balls to protect people from hitting the bars."
It only takes one good head shot to teach you to avoid them. I learned.
06/08/2024 01:42PM
Thanks for the group-think on this.
This generation of Outback has a couple of very specific challenges in terms of attaching anything to the OEM crossbars (see photos).
The OEM bars are bowed, high point in the center. That high point is proud of the level line between the upper edges of the two side rails - a two-by on top of that would be a teeter-totter, if you will. One might solve this by using a normal, very warped 2x. :-)
However, in addition: the upper edges of the two side rails are a thin, weak molded plastic at that point and would not support any real load.
So - a 2x2 or 2x4 u-bolted or otherwise affixed on top of the OEM crossbar is going to likely wobble or even flex a side rail under load, compromising the whole enchilada.
Hmmm - this has me thinking - perhaps the answer is to run two longitudinal 2x4s (front-to-back; one left side, one right side), U-bolted to the OEM cross bars. Then a second set of 2x4s, sideways & on top, screwed to the lower ones.
This generation of Outback has a couple of very specific challenges in terms of attaching anything to the OEM crossbars (see photos).
The OEM bars are bowed, high point in the center. That high point is proud of the level line between the upper edges of the two side rails - a two-by on top of that would be a teeter-totter, if you will. One might solve this by using a normal, very warped 2x. :-)
However, in addition: the upper edges of the two side rails are a thin, weak molded plastic at that point and would not support any real load.
So - a 2x2 or 2x4 u-bolted or otherwise affixed on top of the OEM crossbar is going to likely wobble or even flex a side rail under load, compromising the whole enchilada.
Hmmm - this has me thinking - perhaps the answer is to run two longitudinal 2x4s (front-to-back; one left side, one right side), U-bolted to the OEM cross bars. Then a second set of 2x4s, sideways & on top, screwed to the lower ones.
"I don't care what you believe. I care what you can prove." -Philosopher & Mathematician JJJ
06/08/2024 04:48PM
billconner: "EddyTurn: "I drive Forester with 78" Yakima round cross-bars on the roof. They are not wider than the car itself (including side mirrors) and easily fit 2 regular canoes side-by-side. I replace end-caps on the bars with bright yellow tennis balls to protect people from hitting the bars."
It only takes one good head shot to teach you to avoid them. I learned."
In New Jersey we don't have self-service gas stations and attendants in my town would stop serving me altogether if they have to learn this skill by trial.
"A man's got to know his limitations."
06/08/2024 08:47PM
You will find the Outback roof rack has brackets to attach straps to. Remove the brackets and use those threaded holes to attach what ever homemade cross bar you come up with. Expect mid-teen gas mileage and a tough time in a crosswind. It can be done but just too much to ask of an outback.
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheNorthwoodsman1
06/09/2024 07:53AM
Thule does make a bracket that attaches to the base off the rack (not the cross bars) and then you can buy the extended bars that fit the brackets. Not cheap, but really solid.
Nobody exists on purpose, nobody belongs anywhere, everybody’s going to die.
06/09/2024 04:10PM
We have a 2012 Outback and use 2X4s lashed next to the OEM cross bars. If I remember right the bow of the OEM bars made tying things off a little weird but it worked just fine. Driven back and forth from Chicago a few times with this set up. Wish I had a better picture, but this with just one canoe on top is all I have
06/09/2024 06:01PM
Marten: "You will find the Outback roof rack has brackets to attach straps to. "
Alas Marten - mine does not! May be that they discontinued those with the current generation...
"I don't care what you believe. I care what you can prove." -Philosopher & Mathematician JJJ
06/10/2024 06:29PM
amhacker22: "I drove an outback for a few years. They’re great cars, but their racks are absolutely worthless. As I used my canoes more, it became a dealbreaker.
Other than that, great cars."
Exactly why I got the model with a "normal" roof rack (and 6 cylinders!).
06/11/2024 09:35AM
sns: "Marten: "You will find the Outback roof rack has brackets to attach straps to. "
Alas Marten - mine does not! May be that they discontinued those with the current generation..."
Oh my! Without those I would be hesitant relying on the factory cross bars to be enough on the windy interstates. I went with a Dodge Durango but their factory rack is worthless too. Had to purchase an expensive rack anyway. Even those have little front to back distance between the bars.
Best to have a trailer hitch and run a rack with that being the rear support. Some have had pros drill and attach towers as far forward as possible. I say pros because they need to know where it is safe to drill on.the roof. If you use a rear carrier on the trailer hitch you have an even longer attaching option.
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheNorthwoodsman1
06/13/2024 12:46PM
amhacker22: "I drove an outback for a few years. They’re great cars, but their racks are absolutely worthless. As I used my canoes more, it became a dealbreaker.
Other than that, great cars."
Exactly why I did not buy one. Don't want to mess around with a homemade contraption which I'd not be happy with in terms of looks, simplicity or safety. Otherwise an Outback would've been at/near the top of my list.
"Enjoy every sandwich"
06/13/2024 04:31PM
HowardSprague: "amhacker22: "I drove an outback for a few years. They’re great cars, but their racks are absolutely worthless. As I used my canoes more, it became a dealbreaker.
Other than that, great cars."
Exactly why I did not buy one. Don't want to mess around with a homemade contraption which I'd not be happy with in terms of looks, simplicity or safety. Otherwise an Outback would've been at/near the top of my list."
I had one of the newer Outbacks (17) for seven years and had zero issue with the rack, carrying canoes, bikes, ski box all around the country- never an issue. If you want wider heavier duty bars they make a Thule attachment to the base rack that is very robust (no need to mess with a "homemade contraption). I really liked the ability to tuck the crossbars into the base when not needed.
Nobody exists on purpose, nobody belongs anywhere, everybody’s going to die.
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