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Boundary Waters Quetico Forum Gear Forum Cargo capacity of 20 ft vs 18 ft canoes? |
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04/02/2019 04:52PM
I'm curious about what boat size does to cargo capacity. I think it does BIG things. Like a somewhat larger boat can carry a LOT more. Is it one of those exponential things?
I've read the explanations of why we can't put a number to the weight, or why the makers don't like doing that.
I suppose I'm specifically thinking of the difference in cargo capacity of the Minn3 vs the Minn2.
If we don't want to fuss w a M3, let's substitute any freighter type big hull you like to compare to a smaller one.
I recall reading about Voyageur Canoes -- which were 36 feet -- and how they hauled 8-10 guys plus 3 tons of cargo. That's almost 4 tons. Crazy.
I've read the explanations of why we can't put a number to the weight, or why the makers don't like doing that.
I suppose I'm specifically thinking of the difference in cargo capacity of the Minn3 vs the Minn2.
If we don't want to fuss w a M3, let's substitute any freighter type big hull you like to compare to a smaller one.
I recall reading about Voyageur Canoes -- which were 36 feet -- and how they hauled 8-10 guys plus 3 tons of cargo. That's almost 4 tons. Crazy.
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04/03/2019 06:54AM
I used to think about setting a 17' canoe next to an 18' canoe and looking at the difference in size at the bow... a small, narrow little extra amount of room on the 18-footer.
Actually, the difference in size is in the middle at the center thwart. That one-foot of extra space measures 12" x 36" x 14". That's why an 18' canoe seems so much bigger.
For a 20' canoe, you can do the math, but it would be a lot of cargo capacity!!
Actually, the difference in size is in the middle at the center thwart. That one-foot of extra space measures 12" x 36" x 14". That's why an 18' canoe seems so much bigger.
For a 20' canoe, you can do the math, but it would be a lot of cargo capacity!!
04/03/2019 01:09PM
Our mn3 20 foot can carry 5 duluth packs, 3 kids under the age of 10, 2 adults, fishing gear and a dog (lab). Now that 2 of our kids are teens they can no longer share a seat so we have to bring the mn3 and our spirit 2.
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04/03/2019 06:32PM
Yes. It makes a huge difference. Longer boat should have a wider beam too. I’m not sure if the accurate term is exponential or not, but it is one of those things where a seemingly small bit makes a world of diffeeence. Kind of like how a 5 inch screen has 50% more area than a 4 inch screen.
I built a 19 1/2 ft boat last year compared to my previous freedom 17. I fit the same load into my 19 1/2 ft as I did in the 17 ft for yrs. it was a tight squeeze into the 17 ft. But Difference now is I have an entire section between the yoke and rear thwart wide open in the 19 1/2 ft.That’s how big of a difference it makes!!
I built a 19 1/2 ft boat last year compared to my previous freedom 17. I fit the same load into my 19 1/2 ft as I did in the 17 ft for yrs. it was a tight squeeze into the 17 ft. But Difference now is I have an entire section between the yoke and rear thwart wide open in the 19 1/2 ft.That’s how big of a difference it makes!!
04/04/2019 04:25PM
for straight runnin' boats I dream of a rudder...
we had a Kruger rudder once in a no-rocker wenonah. it was pure delight! why did i sell that boat??
it was kind of soul-less, i guess. it was a Sundowner 18.5. seemed severe.
someday i'll get a sexy 14 ft lightweight boat w a bit of rocker... something like a Bell Northstar Merlin -- one of those cool names.
but in the meantime and for a different duty this Minn3 will be fun on big water w a buncha friends
we had a Kruger rudder once in a no-rocker wenonah. it was pure delight! why did i sell that boat??
it was kind of soul-less, i guess. it was a Sundowner 18.5. seemed severe.
someday i'll get a sexy 14 ft lightweight boat w a bit of rocker... something like a Bell Northstar Merlin -- one of those cool names.
but in the meantime and for a different duty this Minn3 will be fun on big water w a buncha friends
*** Jeff Potter OutYourBackdoor.com, HQ for indie outdoor action & culture 2000+ stories since 1994 bike boat ski hooknbullet!
04/04/2019 07:10PM
JeffOYB: "for straight runnin' boats I dream of a rudder...
we had a Kruger rudder once in a no-rocker wenonah. it was pure delight! why did i sell that boat??
it was kind of soul-less, i guess. it was a Sundowner 18.5. seemed severe.
someday i'll get a sexy 14 ft lightweight boat w a bit of rocker... something like a Bell Northstar Merlin -- one of those cool names.
but in the meantime and for a different duty this Minn3 will be fun on big water w a buncha friends
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Sellers remorse.. LOL . we have all done that I think. Yes it will be a blast.. Where are you going?
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