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To intervene or not...?

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thegildedgopher

12/12/2019 01:46PM

Pretty interesting story came across the feed today:

Octopus battles bald eagle

I'm not sure how I feel about the intervention.

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Jackfish

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12/12/2019 01:58PM

If the octopus was grasping any other animal, I would have sat back and watched nature take it's course. Since it was a bald eagle, I think I would have done the same as the guys in the story.

"Keep close to Nature's heart, yourself; and break clear away, once in a while, and climb a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean." ~ John Muir

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Chieflonewatie

12/12/2019 03:58PM

I would have let it happen. It's not like there's a shortage of bald eagles up there.

Chief Lone Watie

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fadersup

12/12/2019 04:55PM

Those guys f'ed up our chance to see an eagle with eight wings.

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nofish

12/12/2019 05:19PM

fadersup: "Those guys f'ed up our chance to see an eagle with eight wings. "
Or a flying octopus.

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KarlBAndersen1

12/12/2019 06:28PM

No. Absolutely not.In fact, in most places it's illegal to interfere in the normal day-to-day activities of wild life. It's actually qualified as "harassment".

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butthead

12/12/2019 06:37PM

Is it ethical to intervene on behalf of the Eagle's next meal?

butthead

“I never set out to be weird. It was always other people who called me weird.” ? Frank Zappa

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Pinetree

12/12/2019 06:50PM

It was in Canadian waters and I really am ashamed I don't know what protection they have Canada wide or Ontario. Just assumed they were protected.

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gymcoachdon

12/12/2019 09:41PM

I bet that eagle doesn't bully an octopus again.

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BearBurrito

12/13/2019 05:01PM

I would not have intervened. Let nature take it's course.

One thorn of experience is worth a whole wilderness of warning

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Pinetree

12/13/2019 05:32PM

Years ago a bald eagle was way up a tree over hanging the water and its leg was tangled up with fish line around its leg and a branch. It was all messed up in fishline. We cut the tree down with a chain saw and as soon as the tree hit the water we grabbed the eagle and cut the line off from the tree and than the eagle. It was in good shape and it took off whenwe let it go.
It would of been a slow death otherwise.

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missmolly

12/13/2019 10:07PM

You were brave, clever, and kind. Thank you.

I will paddle eternal, Kevlar and carbon.

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yogi59weedr

12/14/2019 01:44AM

Nice job Pinetree. I understand all that letting nature take its course thing. There are plenty of other things for a octopus to eat. I'll be damned if I'm gonna stand around and let harm come to an eagle or what it stands for. Simple for me. Intervene.

Ah retired @ 50

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nctry

12/14/2019 08:55AM

Pinetree: "Years ago a bald eagle was way up a tree over hanging the water and its leg was tangled up with fish line around its leg and a branch. It was all messed up in fishline. We cut the tree down with a chain saw and as soon as the tree hit the water we grabbed the eagle and cut the line off from the tree and than the eagle. It was in good shape and it took off whenwe let it go. It would of been a slow death otherwise."
What about the tree... haha. I’ve watched eagles do the same to a loon and her baby. It’s nature, it’s life... either way I’m ok with whatever. But that was quite an encounter. I’m guessing that octopus eats well.

Nctry

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Pinetree

12/14/2019 10:03AM

I have a friend who saw a loon kill young mallards, then, on the same lake, an eagle killed a young loon and something might have gotten the eagle's young. I will have to ask him if I see him.

It's tough world out there. Wild animals rarely die of old age.

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missmolly

12/14/2019 01:21PM

Then there are the trillions of tiny predators, e.g. bacteria and viruses, which want to eat us from the inside out.

I will paddle eternal, Kevlar and carbon.

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Basspro69

12/14/2019 02:39PM

Jackfish: "If the octopus was grasping any other animal, I would have sat back and watched nature take it's course. Since it was a bald eagle, I think I would have done the same as the guys in the story."
+1

" I want to know Gods thoughts , The rest are details " Albert Einstein. WWJD

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Bearpath9

12/15/2019 05:56AM

Nope. Everything has to eat something.

Measure twice, cut once

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missmolly

12/15/2019 11:36AM

I don't think an octopus could eat an eagle. Predators that eat birds pluck them first. Of course, an octopus has a beak, but plucking is not in an octopus's DNA.

I just did a search and learned that not all predators pluck birds before eating them. Some, like domestic and wild cats, will eat small birds whole. Of course, the eagle is a big bird.

I will paddle eternal, Kevlar and carbon.

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butthead

12/15/2019 01:47PM

I'm of the school that Anthropomorphism has dumbed down too much of human relations with animals.
The OP shows an octopus obtaining food and yes they can eat just about anything they can kill. Saving the Eagle from the dinner plate is no better than saving a Trout from an Eagle and the nymphs/fry a Trout eats.

butthead

“I never set out to be weird. It was always other people who called me weird.” ? Frank Zappa

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