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Pilgrimpaddler
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01/21/2021 09:59AM  
I've been looking at the possibility of adding a camping hammock to my gear pile and, since I've never hammocked before, was looking at something that would be easy to set up and wouldn't have a high "fiddle factor". Based on some research I've narrowed my choice down to either an Amok Draumr or a Superior Gear insulated hammock. My question is to anyone with experience with either of these two hammocks: what are your opinions on comfort and ease of set up?

I don't really need a hammock, but I've got that itch for new gear and it needs scratching!

Thanks for any opinions you might share.
 
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OCDave
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01/21/2021 11:13AM  
Pilgrimpaddler: "..... and wouldn't have a high "fiddle factor"..."


Thanks for starting my day off with a hearty laugh.
 
OCDave
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01/21/2021 11:16AM  
OK, perhaps a more helpful post:

I have not used either of the hammocks you referenced but, I have purchased over a dozen hammocks over the past decade. I'd recommend you check out Warbonnet Outdoors . This is a tremendously successful cottage business with several inovative hammock designs.

I own a couple of the original Blackbird Hammocks They are the hammocks I lend to beginners or set up for my kids when hammock camping. They are also the hammocks I reachfor during bug season. They are constructed with a "foot box" that make leg cramps less of a problem so, they require less "fiddle factor" to hit a sweet spot for comfort. In addition, the supension straps are as easy and straight forward as you'll find.

The Blackbird is also available in a longer design (XLC). While the original came only with a one-side zip, integratred bug net, the XLC 's bug net can be fully removed.

Brandon, the founder of Warbonnet Outdoors, has also designed some underquilts that match the design of his hammocks making insulation a no-brainer selection.

Finally, whichever hammock you select, you won't find a beter hammock camping tarp than the Warbonnet Superfly .

Brandon has a couple of sales each year but, if you plan to buy an entire set-up (hammock, tarp and underquilt), you might consider reaching out to him for a package price.

Sorry I couldn't help with the hammocks you asked about. Good luck with your new adventure.
 
01/21/2021 11:33AM  
I hang in Warbonnet products so cannot address the options you give. I like my gear.
What caught me was the "itch for new gear" combined with wanting a low "fiddle factor". I thought part of the deal with gear, especially with new gear is fiddling until tuned and then get new gear.
 
preacherdave
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01/21/2021 12:58PM  
Shug has product reviews of both of them on his You-tube channel. That Superior hammock looks interesting. I'm not sure the Draumr would be good in a serious rain storm. Tarp seems a little sketchy for bad weather.
 
Pilgrimpaddler
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01/21/2021 02:05PM  
preacherdave: "Shug has product reviews of both of them on his You-tube channel. That Superior hammock looks interesting. I'm not sure the Draumr would be good in a serious rain storm. Tarp seems a little sketchy for bad weather."
I first became aware of both hammocks from Shug videos. He had good things to say about the Superior (the 30-degree model), even though it sounded like he didn't expect to like it that much. I saw a later video of his (probably only a few weeks old now) and he had a different Superior hammock (15-degree), so he must have liked the thing enough to use it again.

I agree with your comment about the Amok tarp - it looks possibly too small in the event of a nasty rain storm. Also, it looks like the Draumr and the tarp that goes with it are both out of stock (thanks, Covid!).

Overall, I'd rather spend my money in my home state rather than somewhere else. Also, one totally arbitrary factor that is making me lean towards the Superior hammock is that there appear to be a lot more color combinations. Not a very important thing, but still ...
 
mschi772
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01/21/2021 11:01PM  
preacherdave: "Shug has product reviews of both of them on his You-tube channel. That Superior hammock looks interesting. I'm not sure the Draumr would be good in a serious rain storm. Tarp seems a little sketchy for bad weather."

My girlfriend just got a Draumr last year, and I'll say that I had similar questions about the tarp...until we set it up. It provides plenty of coverage pitched normally, and when you pitch the corners of the tarp low/straight down to the ground, it cocoons the Draumr surprisingly well. If you wanted overkill shelter, Simply Light Designs makes a Winter Haven tarp for 90 degree hammocks like the Amok that really walls you in, but we are more than satisfied with the Amok tarp for 3-season.
 
01/24/2021 10:24AM  
Have to admit the Superior Gear hammock look good. Like the integrated under quilt and am seriously considering the Toasty Bundle as my first hammock set. Far as tarps I already have that aspect fully covered.

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Pilgrimpaddler
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01/24/2021 05:54PM  
butthead: "Have to admit the Superior Gear hammock look good. Like the integrated under quilt and am seriously considering the Toasty Bundle as my first hammock set. Far as tarps I already have that aspect fully covered.


butthead"

I’m ready to pull the trigger on the “storm bundle”. I need a tarp but I’ve got an EE Revelation quilt to use as a top quilt. It sure is nice being able to get really good gear from local vendors (EE, CCS and Superior).

Btw, I see what you did with your “fully covered” comment. But, I won’t leave you hanging for a witty response.
 
01/24/2021 08:16PM  
Those Superior hammocks look pretty sweet, especially if cold weather hanging is your thing or if you just like to collect gear.

If you are only going to buy one hammock then you might want more flexibility to switch/vent/remove quilts in all four seasons.

 
01/24/2021 10:01PM  
They do make a regular hammock that uses snaps to add their under quilts.
And quite a few options far as fill weight length a such.

butthead
 
firemedic5586
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01/25/2021 05:09PM  
Poke around here, Hammock Fourms. lots of info to be had. They also have a for sale/ wanted section. That's were I picked up the hammock my son now was..

I'm on my 4th Hammock as my kids took my other two. My self and my son have Dream Hammock Sparrows, my daughter has a Clark NX-270 that is now being made by Dutch. That being said, what ever hammock you go with I would choose one without insulation. That way you are not carrying weight you don't need, and then can dial your UQ (Under Quilt) to what you need. Netting is a must.

As for Fly's, the War Bonnet Super Fly is a good set up. Just ask my daughter as she has mine now, it covers more area then the one that came with the Clark. I hang under a UGQ Winter Dream 13, I like it more than the WB Superfly I used to have, covers even more area and the "doors" can be snapped together.

If wondering about hammock #4 , it is a cheapy I bought off of amazon to see if I would like hanging. After one weekend camping, the screen was trashed, yes its possible to hang upside down in a hammock with your face against the screen inches from the ground. But it served its purpose, my back wasn't a pretzel like it is when I ground sleep, I ordered the Clark. Now it sits in my pickup for when I want to do a quick hang while my son is off doing Boy Scout stuff.

Clark

Sparrow Hammock

Also mentioned SHUG a must for anyone new to hanging..

A
 
Pilgrimpaddler
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01/27/2021 09:51AM  
I went ahead and ordered a Superior hammock (30-degree). I like the fact that there's no need to fiddle with an underquilt. I realize that there may be times when it's too warm for that, but I think in shoulder season it should be able to handle most conditions.

I'm afraid that I'm going to get sucked into the hammocking rabbit hole and there may be more (or much more) hammock-related equipment purchases in my future. Oh well!
 
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