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pswith5
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11/24/2021 04:49PM  
Ok... I have searched a few threads, but didn't see the answer to this question. I have seen a few Lightbar (that's one brand) headlamps. I think it gives you an idea of what I am asking. The idea being, low profile with several LED lights. Would seem to give out a lot of light and not be clumsy.

Does anyone have experience with these? Quality with affordability?

Thanks, Pete
 
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theokbushman
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11/24/2021 11:38PM  
These are really nice and very well built. The HMR 65 is brighter than my car's regular lights.


https://www.fenix-store.com/headlamps/
 
PeaceFrog
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11/25/2021 07:57AM  
Another good option

Hope you find the right one for you

 
PeaceFrog
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11/25/2021 08:00AM  
NiteCore

Ok my link didn’t work the first time
 
straighthairedcurly
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11/25/2021 02:45PM  
PeaceFrog: " NiteCore


Ok my link didn’t work the first time"


I second this recommendation. My NiteCore is lightweight, bright, easy to recharge, and has been super reliable.
 
907Tundra
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11/25/2021 06:14PM  
Headlamps are the tool of choice especially if you need to be active or have your hands free. I’ve used tons of them over the last 25 years and they just keep getting better and more affordable.
Features I like:
1-Rechargeable battery pack (some also allow you to remove the pack and replace with AA or AAA’s in an emergency case where you don’t have a power source available for recharging)
2-Ability to disconnect battery pack from lamp (it prevents the headlamp from accidentally turning on while jostling inside your pack during the day
3-separate sliding dimmer switch, saves battery when you just need a little light
4-Adjustable beam. Spot and flood
5-simple is better, hate having to hit small buttons repeatedly to cycle through brightness and flash modes

Avoid large bulky and heavy multiple lamp models. Quality units typically have a single large diode.

I like the Coast HL7R model
Rechargeable Coast HL7R headlamp
 
11/27/2021 08:06AM  
Those replying with tradition headlamp choices I think missed Pete's point.
Lightbar Headlamps
Is a different design with a 140 degree beam from a strip of LED's. With it you do not need to turn your head to see to the side. It still offers a spot mode. The Pro version weighs 5 ounces including the battery and 500 lumen max light output. I do not own one Pete only have seen them in reviews and sales adds. Seems as much an improvement over narrower beam headlamps, as headlamps changed from standard light bulbs and C or D batteries, to current LED Lithium battery lamps.
It is a LED strip lamp that can wrap around the forehead. The LED strip and battery can be separated from the strap allowing washing or replacement, and a strip light area lamp. For camp chores and inside a shelter I think it would be significantly more useful than a single source directed lamp.

butthead
 
Savage Voyageur
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11/27/2021 10:02AM  
Hey Pete, look at Home Depot or Menards for the Coast brand. They have a few models and I really like them and very affordable. One has an adjustable beam, most have a red beam so you don’t hurt your night vision.
 
pswith5
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11/27/2021 04:42PM  
butthead: "Those replying with tradition headlamp choices I think missed Pete's point.
Lightbar Headlamps
Is a different design with a 140 degree beam from a strip of LED's. With it you do not need to turn your head to see to the side. It still offers a spot mode. The Pro version weighs 5 ounces including the battery and 500 lumen max light output. I do not own one Pete only have seen them in reviews and sales adds. Seems as much an improvement over narrower beam headlamps, as headlamps changed from standard light bulbs and C or D batteries, to current LED Lithium battery lamps.
It is a LED strip lamp that can wrap around the forehead. The LED strip and battery can be separated from the strap allowing washing or replacement, and a strip light area lamp. For camp chores and inside a shelter I think it would be significantly more useful than a single source directed lamp.


butthead"
Ken is correct. Looking for something low profile in a strip. Maybe I won't keep knocking it off my head. ??
 
11/27/2021 05:41PM  
Lightbars in use.

For campsite use, I like the idea of more than spot illumination. Hadn't heard of them before, but suspect I'll be wearing one soon. Thanks for the heads up.

TZ
 
straighthairedcurly
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11/27/2021 06:12PM  
Seems like a lightbar would be hard to keep from shining in the eyes of other people camping with me. Anyone been with someone who was using one and could speak to that issue.
 
11/27/2021 09:46PM  
straighthairedcurly: "Seems like a lightbar would be hard to keep from shining in the eyes of other people camping with me. Anyone been with someone who was using one and could speak to that issue. "

It is not a spot light, more a very wide flood light. LED strip lights are used in Christmas decorations, deck and patio soft lighting, even several brands of tents. This is a purpose built headlight version. Google search "strip led head light" for a variety.

butthead
 
PeaceFrog
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11/27/2021 11:12PM  
Liteband

Noted. I’ve seen these used by roadway workers which makes sense for a broad Ishtar distribution.
 
PeaceFrog
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11/27/2021 11:15PM  
PeaceFrog: " Liteband


Noted. I’ve seen these used by roadway workers which makes sense for a broad Ishtar distribution. "


Light distribution

sorry can’t type with a dog on my lap. Lol
 
11/28/2021 08:13AM  
straighthairedcurly: "Seems like a lightbar would be hard to keep from shining in the eyes of other people camping with me. Anyone been with someone who was using one and could speak to that issue. "

This would be an issue with base models, but the Pro and Sport models have a spotlight mode to avoid that. (Shown at 1:22 in the video.)

TZ
 
11/28/2021 08:56AM  
I do not understand the concern of "spotlighting a fellow camper", what do you do with a conventional spot headlamp? Aim it up or down, use the lowest setting, turn it off? All these actions can be achieved in a similar manner with a strip of LED's. I do have a strip light for use handheld,
Edosiro Rechargeable LED Work Light , and it is not hard on eyeballs because it is an area lamp not a spot.

butthead
 
907Tundra
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11/28/2021 02:52PM  
straighthairedcurly: "Seems like a lightbar would be hard to keep from shining in the eyes of other people camping with me. Anyone been with someone who was using one and could speak to that issue. "

That’s been my experience. My friend had one at moose camp and the rest of us really grew to dislike it. In light bar mode you couldn’t look in his general direction without it shining in your eyes. In spot mode in camp it was better but the front leds still spill light in all directions and it was pretty useless for seeing any real distance.

By contrast a single light with adjustable brightness, a pivot head and adjustable focus allows you to dim your light, and aim it a little low while in camp so as not to shine it in your friends eyes but should you need to navigate or spot anything in the distance you can adjust your light accordingly.

If you just stick a diode on something without directing the light it causes a lot of glare, primarily for others around you but I would imagine for the user as well.
 
Wharfrat63
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11/29/2021 07:46AM  

butthead" Ken is correct. Looking for something low profile in a strip. Maybe I won't keep knocking it off my head. ??"

Cannot get smaller or lighter than this...

Streamlight Bandit https://www.streamlight.com/products/detail/index/bandit
 
12/04/2021 03:54PM  
I have a good Princeton Tec headligt that is fully useable but this thread got me interested and I did buy a Lightbar Pro. It was delivered today so no field use but have tried it out.
Lots of usable light in a wide part circle past my side vision. It is bright on high and medium a very useful setting. The low setting does not interfere with vision yet does not set off light switched wall lights and is comfortable to look at directly.
The spot function only lights 4 center LEDs. The red is dim-able. Will be back with a fuller use review. It does seem to be a very capable camp light, very good for in tent and general use due to the flood of light output. It is not a spot for distance use.

butthead
 
pswith5
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12/04/2021 09:00PM  
Thanks, Ken.
 
MossBack
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12/04/2021 09:38PM  
I am considering one of the Nite Core headlamps. But most of the headlamps I have used generate quite a bit of heat just behind the light and in turn transfers it to the part that lays against my forehead. Is that a problem with the Nite Core models?
 
12/05/2021 08:18AM  
MossBack: " I am considering one of the Nite Core headlamps. But most of the headlamps I have used generate quite a bit of heat just behind the light and in turn transfers it to the part that lays against my forehead. Is that a problem with the Nite Core models?"

I have a Nitecore NU25...no noticeable heat. With my DIY headband, it is under one ounce: so light/comfortable I have often forgotten it is on my head.

For the last several paddling trips has been the only light I bring. Excellent product.
 
Scoobs
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12/05/2021 11:55AM  
PeaceFrog: " NiteCore


Ok my link didn’t work the first time"


I third for Nitecore. I have several of their torches/flashlights. Fantastic light, build and durability.
 
12/06/2021 12:43PM  
I am going to point out again that Pete in the OP is considering a different type of headlamp. A LED strip flood light not a spot beam.
Quite a bit different even to multi LED adjustable lens spots.
My garage stand in for my head at a workbench, about feet from front edge

Bench lamp and 2 garage LED overhead lights on, shot over my stand in head,

Princeton Tec Eos 170 lumen fresh AAA batteries on high, garage lights off.

Lightbar 500 lumen strip light on high, garage lights off.

I do not have a wide enough angle camera lens to show the width of the light inside my garage.
Lightbar Pro 5.3 ounces, old Princeton Tec Eos 3.3 ounces.
It is difficult to photo bot at lowest setting but I can say I'd rather look at the Lightbar on lowest or spot either setting that the Eos at lowest setting. It is also much easier to see/find/work with that a spot beam.
There are other options for strip LED headlights, I chose the Lightbar for it's build quality and 2 LiPo battery sizes/AAA battery pack all of which can power the Lightbar. Reviewers complain about the charging cord, well a battery pack comes with a cord when bought separately. Another benefit is the cord connection complained about has a standard waterproof O-ring plug far better water resistance than a USB plug, the charge cord could be built with common available parts at home. I did order and get a spare 3000 ma battery (with charge cable), and AAA holder with the Lightbar Pro.
Not a full review yet but some additional thoughts.

butthead
 
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