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10/01/2022 02:08PM  
Jake Runyon and Chase Cominsky got caught adding lead sinkers, and Walleye filets down the walleyes they weighed in. Hope they face some SERIOUS consequences!!
 
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10/01/2022 04:32PM  
Sounds like these jokers have been accused in the past. Surprised to read that fishing tournaments use polygraph tests.
 
yogi59weedr
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10/02/2022 05:02AM  
I saw the crowd reaction when they got caught. Those guys were lucky to get out of there with their lives. Angry is mild. There will be hell to pay.
 
missmolly
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10/02/2022 08:17AM  
I love when cheaters get caught. Metal balls and walleye filets had me wondering if a kitchen sink was going to be pulled too.
 
Savage Voyageur
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10/02/2022 11:12AM  
They will never be welcomed at any tournaments going forward. This will haunt them until the day they die.

My question is why on earth would they cheat? They obviously know they will be found out. You probably can feel the lead weights in the belly. Polygraph tests will tell the truth if they are being dishonest. I watched the video online where they are first accused. Lots of swearing and mad fisherman so be warned. I’m surprised they got out of there without a fight. Then they show the tournament judge cutting open each fish. They were filled with lead weights and fish fillets.

Going forward I think the top money winners should have the fish opened up to see if there is any funny business.
 
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10/02/2022 02:21PM  
The biggest issue with these particular tournaments, is they allow dead fish to be weighed in. Makes it easier to cheat.

And it sounds like the suspicion of cheating on those Erie tournaments is quite widespread. If that’s the case, then cheaters are clearly not getting caught often enough.
 
cyclones30
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10/02/2022 02:57PM  
Need to have a little x-ray that each fish goes thru like TSA checks bags at the airport.

Partially kidding....

But yeah I saw the video a few days ago when it came out. Not a good look, and they didn't get touched cause the organizer was smart and the police were handling it.

But it sounds like those guys have won a lot of money and boats in previous tourneys and years....do you polygraph them for all those? Or charge them with something and they're forced to give up boats and a few hundred grand?
 
Savage Voyageur
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10/02/2022 03:17PM  
GunflintTrailAngler: "The biggest issue with these particular tournaments, is they allow dead fish to be weighed in. Makes it easier to cheat."

How is it easier to cheat? They can cheat all they want in these tournaments. Simply weight them, record weight, then cut them open, they are already dead anyway, no big deal. If the fish are full of water, smaller fresh fish, lead weights, fish fillets you will find it.
 
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10/02/2022 08:07PM  
That's about as low as you can get. I hope that they get prosecuted and have to pay back prize money, equipment won, and sponsorship funds. I can't believe they made it out of the area without getting the crap beat out of them. With modern technology it make sense that in all tournaments that the fish are quickly scanned, even in live release tournaments.
 
10/03/2022 06:03AM  
Quetico Walleye Tour, circa 2005
 
10/03/2022 10:27AM  
cyclones30: "Need to have a little x-ray that each fish goes thru like TSA checks bags at the airport.


Partially kidding....


But yeah I saw the video a few days ago when it came out. Not a good look, and they didn't get touched cause the organizer was smart and the police were handling it.


But it sounds like those guys have won a lot of money and boats in previous tourneys and years....do you polygraph them for all those? Or charge them with something and they're forced to give up boats and a few hundred grand? "

They could be sued by sponsors for any money they have given them and damages. It could exceed whatever they have won. It's hard to see if they can be held accountable for winnings that they didn't catch the cheat at the time. The worst thing that happens has already happened. They have lost all credibility and fellowship among those they sought to impress.
 
yogi59weedr
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10/03/2022 01:54PM  
That was pretty low.
Yesterday I went golfing with a bunch of buddies.
One guy told a story of another guy, who most knew.
He was stealing his grandma's morphine patches to another guy. The other guy knew he was stealing them and still bought them...

WTF is wrong with people....
Sad world we live in...
 
thegildedgopher
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10/04/2022 11:04AM  
Yogi, that's just how guys from the Cleveland area talk, even to their grandmothers ;)

Why cheat? I'd say the roughly $400k those 2 dudes won gave them pretty good incentive.

Legally they'll get off with a slap on the wrist. Can't charge them for anything but this one incident. I bet it's like $3k in fines and some probation/community service. Maybe the natural resources folks in Ohio could also charge them with wanton waste for the filets and revoke fishing/hunting privileges.
 
yogi59weedr
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10/04/2022 05:42PM  
I was born in Port Clinton.
Dad worked on Camp Perry
 
yogi59weedr
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10/04/2022 06:46PM  
Not a lawyer, but I'll bet the feds dream up some kind of conspiracy stuff also.


Imagine going to work.
Kids going to school
Bahahahahaha..... going to your in-laws.
Getting a haircut.
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These guy's are toast.


 
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10/04/2022 07:51PM  
They should and can be charged with felony theft by swindle.

Just like in this case.

With a felony these guys won't be hunting either.
 
thegildedgopher
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10/04/2022 10:38PM  
yogi59weedr: "I was born in Port Clinton.
Dad worked on Camp Perry"


Then you know exactly what I meant! Haha kiddin of course.

I hope these idiots get what’s coming to them for sure. For a minute there I didn’t think they’d make it out of that parking lot alive. Probably a good thing there wasn’t alcohol in the mix because those dudes were not happy at all.
 
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10/05/2022 07:13PM  
Yeah there's already felonies pending so....not likely to get off with a wrist slap. Especially when the case has had this much national attention
 
yogi59weedr
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10/07/2022 10:04PM  
Wow, I'm surprised. I thought everyone and their mom on this site would be ripping these guys a new one.
 
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10/08/2022 09:22PM  
I think the whole ordeal is sad. I can't help but feel sorry for the guy getting ripped on by the crowd despite him putting himself in the situation. Could sense remorse going through him as they cut the fish open. I don't blame other fisherman for being upset with it. 100% wrong and they should pay whatever consequences they have coming. I also think fish getting weights shoved in them and fillets and then cut open on the street just for a money tournament is disrespectful to the animal. Us at our worst.
 
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10/08/2022 09:32PM  
yogi59weedr: "Wow, I'm surprised. I thought everyone and their mom on this site would be ripping these guys a new one."

People have been cheating at fishing contests for decades. Not surprised at all. This is just the latest one. I just hope they will be held responsible. Not holding my breath on these guys spending one day in jail.
 
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10/11/2022 08:19PM  
Ahhh. I just read where they confiscated the boat they used that day.. stay tuned.
 
10/12/2022 07:55PM  
I liked fishing tournaments where a group of friends ponied up $1 for first fish, $1 for biggest fish, and $1 for most fish. Winning bragging rights was more fun than winning a few bucks.
 
10/12/2022 08:34PM  
Investigators seized Comisky's boat and trailer.

“ Jacob Runyan, 42, and Chase Cominsky, 35, have been charged with cheating, attempted grand theft, possessing criminal tools and unlawful ownership of wild animals, prosecutors said.”

“ The charges are fifth-degree felonies besides the unlawful ownership of wild animals charge, which is a fourth-degree misdemeanor. This charge pertains to the men's alleged possession of fish filets on their boat. A conviction on this count could result in an indefinite suspension of their fishing licenses, prosecutors said.”
 
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10/13/2022 10:07AM  
AndySG: "I liked fishing tournaments where a group of friends ponied up $1 for first fish, $1 for biggest fish, and $1 for most fish. Winning bragging rights was more fun than winning a few bucks."
What Andy said.

Andy, you're still hanging around? Nice to see your post. :)
 
yogi59weedr
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10/13/2022 02:24PM  
Went golfing last week. Got to 18 and I said closest to the pin for a dollar. Then I knocked one 10 ft away. I had to walk around at the steak dinner afterwards to collect, but I got my dollar from everyone. But I got it.
On our trips we buck it up to 5 bucks for biggest of the walleye northern smally and lake trout.
Best monies I every win.
 
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10/14/2022 05:56AM  
Losers, pure and simple.
 
10/14/2022 07:45AM  
These people are NOT fishermen.
 
missmolly
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10/14/2022 08:43AM  
egknuti: "These people are NOT fishermen. "

^Best comment^

I would add that they're not even men. I think of my grandfather, who was a man's man, an ex-Ohio State University linebacker, tall and powerful with living-tanned, callused, gentle hands, who said, "Die beholden to no man."

He wanted each of his grandchildren to live a giving life, not a taking life.

The two who cheated took and took and took and are likely looking for their next scam because real, hard work is hard.

Honesty is the measure of a man, so, again, they aren't men, much less fishermen.
 
10/22/2022 10:00AM  
quite common, in a bass tournament down south person got caught cheating and was charged with a felony-the prize money amount was large.
 
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10/26/2022 10:00PM  
And now they plea, NOT GUILTY...
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YA RIGHT.
 
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10/27/2022 10:39AM  
yogi59weedr: "And now they plea, NOT GUILTY...
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YA RIGHT."


i know we can all see they're guilty as sin, but burden of proof lies w/ the prosecution. i don't know how these tourneys work but they could raise questions about the chain of custody, etc. what physical evidence exists that they put the weights in the fish? is there a witness? these guys are total scum and they will probably get on the stand and perjure themselves, but i wouldn't be all that surprised if they walked away with a slap on the wrist. crazier things have certainly happened. entering a guilty plea can sometimes influence the judge to go light on the sentence, but i don't think they stood a chance at that in this case. too much media attention, people want blood. pleading NG was probably their only chance at avoiding jail time?
 
11/12/2022 08:44AM  
"It's just a coincidence that all 5 of the walleye we weighed in just happened to only eat the filets of other walleye. And we all know lead in the water is a problem throughout the country".
 
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