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10/02/2022 11:12AM
They will never be welcomed at any tournaments going forward. This will haunt them until the day they die.
My question is why on earth would they cheat? They obviously know they will be found out. You probably can feel the lead weights in the belly. Polygraph tests will tell the truth if they are being dishonest. I watched the video online where they are first accused. Lots of swearing and mad fisherman so be warned. I’m surprised they got out of there without a fight. Then they show the tournament judge cutting open each fish. They were filled with lead weights and fish fillets.
Going forward I think the top money winners should have the fish opened up to see if there is any funny business.
My question is why on earth would they cheat? They obviously know they will be found out. You probably can feel the lead weights in the belly. Polygraph tests will tell the truth if they are being dishonest. I watched the video online where they are first accused. Lots of swearing and mad fisherman so be warned. I’m surprised they got out of there without a fight. Then they show the tournament judge cutting open each fish. They were filled with lead weights and fish fillets.
Going forward I think the top money winners should have the fish opened up to see if there is any funny business.
"So many lakes, so little time." WWJD
10/02/2022 02:21PM
The biggest issue with these particular tournaments, is they allow dead fish to be weighed in. Makes it easier to cheat.
And it sounds like the suspicion of cheating on those Erie tournaments is quite widespread. If that’s the case, then cheaters are clearly not getting caught often enough.
And it sounds like the suspicion of cheating on those Erie tournaments is quite widespread. If that’s the case, then cheaters are clearly not getting caught often enough.
10/02/2022 02:57PM
Need to have a little x-ray that each fish goes thru like TSA checks bags at the airport.
Partially kidding....
But yeah I saw the video a few days ago when it came out. Not a good look, and they didn't get touched cause the organizer was smart and the police were handling it.
But it sounds like those guys have won a lot of money and boats in previous tourneys and years....do you polygraph them for all those? Or charge them with something and they're forced to give up boats and a few hundred grand?
Partially kidding....
But yeah I saw the video a few days ago when it came out. Not a good look, and they didn't get touched cause the organizer was smart and the police were handling it.
But it sounds like those guys have won a lot of money and boats in previous tourneys and years....do you polygraph them for all those? Or charge them with something and they're forced to give up boats and a few hundred grand?
10/02/2022 03:17PM
GunflintTrailAngler: "The biggest issue with these particular tournaments, is they allow dead fish to be weighed in. Makes it easier to cheat."
How is it easier to cheat? They can cheat all they want in these tournaments. Simply weight them, record weight, then cut them open, they are already dead anyway, no big deal. If the fish are full of water, smaller fresh fish, lead weights, fish fillets you will find it.
"So many lakes, so little time." WWJD
10/02/2022 08:07PM
That's about as low as you can get. I hope that they get prosecuted and have to pay back prize money, equipment won, and sponsorship funds. I can't believe they made it out of the area without getting the crap beat out of them. With modern technology it make sense that in all tournaments that the fish are quickly scanned, even in live release tournaments.
10/03/2022 10:27AM
cyclones30: "Need to have a little x-ray that each fish goes thru like TSA checks bags at the airport.
Partially kidding....
But yeah I saw the video a few days ago when it came out. Not a good look, and they didn't get touched cause the organizer was smart and the police were handling it.
But it sounds like those guys have won a lot of money and boats in previous tourneys and years....do you polygraph them for all those? Or charge them with something and they're forced to give up boats and a few hundred grand? "
They could be sued by sponsors for any money they have given them and damages. It could exceed whatever they have won. It's hard to see if they can be held accountable for winnings that they didn't catch the cheat at the time. The worst thing that happens has already happened. They have lost all credibility and fellowship among those they sought to impress.
"Geography is just physics slowed down, with a couple of trees stuck in it." Terry Pratchett
10/03/2022 01:54PM
That was pretty low.
Yesterday I went golfing with a bunch of buddies.
One guy told a story of another guy, who most knew.
He was stealing his grandma's morphine patches to another guy. The other guy knew he was stealing them and still bought them...
WTF is wrong with people....
Sad world we live in...
Yesterday I went golfing with a bunch of buddies.
One guy told a story of another guy, who most knew.
He was stealing his grandma's morphine patches to another guy. The other guy knew he was stealing them and still bought them...
WTF is wrong with people....
Sad world we live in...
Ah retired @ 50
10/04/2022 11:04AM
Yogi, that's just how guys from the Cleveland area talk, even to their grandmothers ;)
Why cheat? I'd say the roughly $400k those 2 dudes won gave them pretty good incentive.
Legally they'll get off with a slap on the wrist. Can't charge them for anything but this one incident. I bet it's like $3k in fines and some probation/community service. Maybe the natural resources folks in Ohio could also charge them with wanton waste for the filets and revoke fishing/hunting privileges.
Why cheat? I'd say the roughly $400k those 2 dudes won gave them pretty good incentive.
Legally they'll get off with a slap on the wrist. Can't charge them for anything but this one incident. I bet it's like $3k in fines and some probation/community service. Maybe the natural resources folks in Ohio could also charge them with wanton waste for the filets and revoke fishing/hunting privileges.
10/04/2022 10:38PM
yogi59weedr: "I was born in Port Clinton.
Dad worked on Camp Perry"
Then you know exactly what I meant! Haha kiddin of course.
I hope these idiots get what’s coming to them for sure. For a minute there I didn’t think they’d make it out of that parking lot alive. Probably a good thing there wasn’t alcohol in the mix because those dudes were not happy at all.
10/08/2022 09:22PM
I think the whole ordeal is sad. I can't help but feel sorry for the guy getting ripped on by the crowd despite him putting himself in the situation. Could sense remorse going through him as they cut the fish open. I don't blame other fisherman for being upset with it. 100% wrong and they should pay whatever consequences they have coming. I also think fish getting weights shoved in them and fillets and then cut open on the street just for a money tournament is disrespectful to the animal. Us at our worst.
10/08/2022 09:32PM
yogi59weedr: "Wow, I'm surprised. I thought everyone and their mom on this site would be ripping these guys a new one."
People have been cheating at fishing contests for decades. Not surprised at all. This is just the latest one. I just hope they will be held responsible. Not holding my breath on these guys spending one day in jail.
"So many lakes, so little time." WWJD
10/12/2022 08:34PM
Investigators seized Comisky's boat and trailer.
“ Jacob Runyan, 42, and Chase Cominsky, 35, have been charged with cheating, attempted grand theft, possessing criminal tools and unlawful ownership of wild animals, prosecutors said.”
“ The charges are fifth-degree felonies besides the unlawful ownership of wild animals charge, which is a fourth-degree misdemeanor. This charge pertains to the men's alleged possession of fish filets on their boat. A conviction on this count could result in an indefinite suspension of their fishing licenses, prosecutors said.”
“ Jacob Runyan, 42, and Chase Cominsky, 35, have been charged with cheating, attempted grand theft, possessing criminal tools and unlawful ownership of wild animals, prosecutors said.”
“ The charges are fifth-degree felonies besides the unlawful ownership of wild animals charge, which is a fourth-degree misdemeanor. This charge pertains to the men's alleged possession of fish filets on their boat. A conviction on this count could result in an indefinite suspension of their fishing licenses, prosecutors said.”
10/13/2022 10:07AM
AndySG: "I liked fishing tournaments where a group of friends ponied up $1 for first fish, $1 for biggest fish, and $1 for most fish. Winning bragging rights was more fun than winning a few bucks."
What Andy said.
Andy, you're still hanging around? Nice to see your post. :)
"Keep close to Nature's heart, yourself; and break clear away, once in a while, and climb a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean." ~ John Muir
10/13/2022 02:24PM
Went golfing last week. Got to 18 and I said closest to the pin for a dollar. Then I knocked one 10 ft away. I had to walk around at the steak dinner afterwards to collect, but I got my dollar from everyone. But I got it.
On our trips we buck it up to 5 bucks for biggest of the walleye northern smally and lake trout.
Best monies I every win.
On our trips we buck it up to 5 bucks for biggest of the walleye northern smally and lake trout.
Best monies I every win.
Ah retired @ 50
10/14/2022 08:43AM
egknuti: "These people are NOT fishermen. "
^Best comment^
I would add that they're not even men. I think of my grandfather, who was a man's man, an ex-Ohio State University linebacker, tall and powerful with living-tanned, callused, gentle hands, who said, "Die beholden to no man."
He wanted each of his grandchildren to live a giving life, not a taking life.
The two who cheated took and took and took and are likely looking for their next scam because real, hard work is hard.
Honesty is the measure of a man, so, again, they aren't men, much less fishermen.
I will paddle eternal, Kevlar and carbon.
10/27/2022 10:39AM
yogi59weedr: "And now they plea, NOT GUILTY...
.
YA RIGHT."
i know we can all see they're guilty as sin, but burden of proof lies w/ the prosecution. i don't know how these tourneys work but they could raise questions about the chain of custody, etc. what physical evidence exists that they put the weights in the fish? is there a witness? these guys are total scum and they will probably get on the stand and perjure themselves, but i wouldn't be all that surprised if they walked away with a slap on the wrist. crazier things have certainly happened. entering a guilty plea can sometimes influence the judge to go light on the sentence, but i don't think they stood a chance at that in this case. too much media attention, people want blood. pleading NG was probably their only chance at avoiding jail time?
03/28/2023 10:21AM
Jacob Runyan, of Broadview Heights, Ohio, and Chase Cominsky, of Heritage, Pennsylvania, pleaded guilty to cheating and unlawful ownership of wild animals as part of a plea deal. Both men agreed to three-year suspensions of their fishing licenses, and Cominsky agreed to give up his bass boat worth $100,000.
I hope this sends a message to all the poachers as well.
I hope this sends a message to all the poachers as well.
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