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01/24/2023 02:26PM  
I recently bought a No Bug Zone CT 11 and I don’t really like cordage that came with it. I want to run a continuous ridgeline. Do you think 1.75 zing it would be strong enough for the job? I want to use Dutch hooks and wasp tensioners and websites says only 1.75 will work with this hardware. Thanks
 
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campnfish
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01/24/2023 02:45PM  
Its easily strong enough, I use it for my CCS lean 3, CCS 10x14 tarp, my hammock tarp, all work great.
 
Argo
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01/24/2023 04:04PM  
While I believe the strength of Zingit won't present an issue, that unit is probably about 6 lbs (?) and you'll want to wear leather gloves or use a marlin spike to put tension on the line.

I have the larger size version (13'). I use 3 mm (1/8") Dyneema. It's overkill but easy on the hands, easy to splice (I put an eye at one end), and more accepting of prusik knots.
 
Lawnchair107
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01/24/2023 04:49PM  
moray: "I recently bought a No Bug Zone CT 11 and I don’t really like cordage that came with it. I want to run a continuous ridgeline. Do you think 1.75 zing it would be strong enough for the job? I want to use Dutch hooks and wasp tensioners and websites says only 1.75 will work with this hardware. Thanks"


This is the exact setup I use, no problem.
 
Lawnchair107
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01/24/2023 04:57PM  
Argo: "While I believe the strength of Zingit won't present an issue, that unit is probably about 6 lbs (?) and you'll want to wear leather gloves or use a marlin spike to put tension on the line.


I have the larger size version (13'). I use 3 mm (1/8") Dyneema. It's overkill but easy on the hands, easy to splice (I put an eye at one end), and more accepting of prusik knots. "


3 mm def easier to splice and accepting of prussik knots. But with dutch wasp & hook, absolutely no need to wear gloves or marlin spike, imo
 
01/24/2023 05:15PM  
Thank you for the replies. This is the set up I use for my hammock tarp I just wasn’t sure if it would hold the weight of a 5 lb shelter. Would I have to use a different diameter line if I wanted to also use 1.75 for Prusik knots to tension tarp?I use tato connectors on my hammock but was hoping to just use up extra line for tensioners.
 
Lawnchair107
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01/24/2023 05:39PM  
moray: "Thank you for the replies. This is the set up I use for my hammock tarp I just wasn’t sure if it would hold the weight of a 5 lb shelter. Would I have to use a different diameter line if I wanted to also use 1.75 for Prusik knots to tension tarp?I use tato connectors on my hammock but was hoping to just use up extra line for tensioners."


I use Nama claws for prussiks on all my 1.75mm line.
 
campnfish
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01/24/2023 07:43PM  
I think you could get the zing it to catch with a prusik with the same size line for both, i have, new zing-it is a little slippy though.

I use this method now for all my tarps, its a dutch stinger on one end and a carabiner on the fixed end, so I can tighten the ridgeline and move the tarp on it to center. The carabiner is very cheap and i already had a few dutch stingers so it was cheap solution for me. A dutch wasp would work the same as a stinger. You could even just use a cheap figure 9 carabiner as well.

I use 4b in the picture below for the adjustable end.

 
Argo
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01/25/2023 07:28AM  
Lawnchair107: "
Argo: "While I believe the strength of Zingit won't present an issue, that unit is probably about 6 lbs (?) and you'll want to wear leather gloves or use a marlin spike to put tension on the line.



I have the larger size version (13'). I use 3 mm (1/8") Dyneema. It's overkill but easy on the hands, easy to splice (I put an eye at one end), and more accepting of prusik knots. "



3 mm def easier to splice and accepting of prussik knots. But with dutch wasp & hook, absolutely no need to wear gloves or marlin spike, imo"


I use the Wasp and Nama Claws on my lightweight hammock tarps. But the NBZ needs to be set up much higher off the ground for it to sit properly. It's also much heavier requiring more leverage at jaunty angle when tensioning the line. The mechanical advantage of the Wasp will not prevail over the pain threshold in your hands in my opinion.

I would also add that if there's not enough tension between the ridge line and the door stake, the door zippers will require two-handed operation - not optimal. A larger diameter ridge line will be more robust and have less stretch than Zingit. By the way, I just use a trucker's knot to tension the ridge line. I believe the Wasp is meant to only work with 1.75mm line.
 
Lawnchair107
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01/28/2023 09:16AM  
Argo: "
Lawnchair107: "
Argo: "While I believe the strength of Zingit won't present an issue, that unit is probably about 6 lbs (?) and you'll want to wear leather gloves or use a marlin spike to put tension on the line.



I have the larger size version (13'). I use 3 mm (1/8") Dyneema. It's overkill but easy on the hands, easy to splice (I put an eye at one end), and more accepting of prusik knots. "




3 mm def easier to splice and accepting of prussik knots. But with dutch wasp & hook, absolutely no need to wear gloves or marlin spike, imo"



I use the Wasp and Nama Claws on my lightweight hammock tarps. But the NBZ needs to be set up much higher off the ground for it to sit properly. It's also much heavier requiring more leverage at jaunty angle when tensioning the line. The mechanical advantage of the Wasp will not prevail over the pain threshold in your hands in my opinion.


I would also add that if there's not enough tension between the ridge line and the door stake, the door zippers will require two-handed operation - not optimal. A larger diameter ridge line will be more robust and have less stretch than Zingit. By the way, I just use a trucker's knot to tension the ridge line. I believe the Wasp is meant to only work with 1.75mm line."


Correct, Dutch’s gear only works with 1.75 mm line.

As far as using dutch hook and wasp, I’m still able to utilize them setting up my NBZ higher off the ground. I’ll throw the ridgeline above a trees crotch at a desired height and just use the hook/ wasp at a lower height. Wrapped around a branch, etc that I can easily maneuver.
 
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