I thought that some people here might be interested in this new chair from Helinox. I just received mine and It is very close to the same size, height, and comfort of the popular Chair One. It weighs 1lb 7oz with bag, compared to the chair one at 2lb 2oz with bag, so saves 11 oz for the ounce counters. They also upped the weight rating from the 265 lb of the Chair Zero and Chair Zero high back, to the 320 lb of the chair one. I found both the Chair zero and Chair Zero high back a little short, tight in the rear, and even though I weigh 195 at 5-10, I liked the much higher weight rating of the Chair One as insurance on uneven ground, etc. This chair solves all of that and remains ultralight, but it comes with a high cost (159.00). The Kevlar fabric isn't as stretchy as the Polyester, and the chair is very slghtly larger than the Chair One, but I doubt you would be able to tell the difference if you didn't know which one you were sitting in.

Looks like a Chair One modified to Kevlar from Poly. Does that mean the rocking chair accessory will fit? Hmmm.

By the way, I like your logic about upping the weight rating. You simply can't have your chair fail while back-country camping. I am trying to convince my buddy - who weighs about 250 lbs - to ditch the Chinese knockoff he brought two years ago. The legs bent on him but he stubbornly believes that it will be okay because he bent them back. Going on a nine day trip in July. I still have time to work on him

Super cool... & aw shucks, I would have gone that route in a heartbeat! I just used my REI Dividend+20% OFF coupon on the regular Chair Zero last month!
I am similar height/weight to you and have some of the same feelings about the chair as you. I do like it overall and loved dropping a full two pounds from my previous chair.
Just one of those 'oh well' things I guess.

Argo: "Looks like a Chair One modified to Kevlar from Poly. Does that mean the rocking chair accessory will fit? Hmmm.


By the way, I like your logic about upping the weight rating. You simply can't have your chair fail while back-country camping. I am trying to convince my buddy - who weighs about 250 lbs - to ditch the Chinese knockoff he brought two years ago. The legs bent on him but he stubbornly believes that it will be okay because he bent them back. Going on a nine day trip in July. I still have time to work on him"

Yikes that would worry me, too! And actually you CAN have your chair fail on a backcountry trip, but it's going to be a whole lot less enjoyable,lol! I really believe that the quality, customer service, and warranty makes the Helinox products hard to beat if you have the $$. I have seen some failures with the knock-offs, but my Chair Ones have taken a real beating and are still going strong. I need to shut up, I sound like a Helinox commercial! :)

As far as this being a kevlar version of the Chair One, it isn't. The frame is lighter, but is larger diameter. Not sure why. The cover is, of course, the same material as the Chair Zero.

OakyDoke: "Super cool... & aw shucks, I would have gone that route in a heartbeat! I just used my REI Dividend+20% OFF coupon on the regular Chair Zero last month!
I am similar height/weight to you and have some of the same feelings about the chair as you. I do like it overall and loved dropping a full two pounds from my previous chair.
Just one of those 'oh well' things I guess. "

Well, at least you are saving some additional weight. I didn't find the Zero terribly uncomfortable and I even considered it, but the extra comfort of the large won out.

I'm going to pick one up and road-test it this summer to see how it holds up. I like the lighter weight. I'll see if the durability is the same as the 2lbs-ers that I own.

I know we live in the future where plastic can have some crazy durability but I wish they would switch their hubs to metal like the big agnes chairs.

Naught: "I know we live in the future where plastic can have some crazy durability but I wish they would switch their hubs to metal like the big agnes chairs."

Totally agree I've replaced all my chairs with the plastic hubs with either Big Agnes or my current "Go To" Nemo Moonlite recliner ... I've witnessed way to many of the plastic hubs break mid trip!

RW