I'm a very hot sleeper, and I've struggled to find a sleeping bag that I don't overheat in during the summer. So I've been looking at quilts like this one since they're supposed to be slightly less insulating than bags of the same temperature rating.

But since I use an Amok Draumr hammock with a sleeping pad that slides into the hammock internally, I wouldn't be using the quilt exactly as intended, i.e. strapped around the pad, creating a cocoon like space. But that's what I'm trying to get away from anyway. If I wanted that I'd use a bag. So using this just draped over me like a regular quilt on a bed seems like it might be just the ticket for me. But before I dropped a couple hundred bucks on something, I wanted to see what the good folks here had to say. Thoughts/opinions?

NEIowapaddler: "I'm a very hot sleeper, and I've struggled to find a sleeping bag that I don't overheat in during the summer. So I've been looking at quilts like this one since they're supposed to be slightly less insulating than bags of the same temperature rating.

But since I use an Amok Draumr hammock with a sleeping pad that slides into the hammock internally, I wouldn't be using the quilt exactly as intended, i.e. strapped around the pad, creating a cocoon like space. But that's what I'm trying to get away from anyway. If I wanted that I'd use a bag. So using this just draped over me like a regular quilt on a bed seems like it might be just the ticket for me. But before I dropped a couple hundred bucks on something, I wanted to see what the good folks here had to say. Thoughts/opinions? "

100% fan of the topquilt. The freedom the quilt provides is awesome. I never strap mine if I’m on the ground. Honestly, if you’re gonna drop 200-250$ from REI, I’d go look at UGQ, Warbonnet, Enlightened Equipment for a little more bang for your buck.

I have a sub-kilo rei sleeping bag that I unzipped a few years ago and never went back. I use it as a quilt. If I got a new bag/quilt I’d go for something by Enlightened Equipment .

My wife nicely got me a mummy bag a few years back, but it's too hot. I splay it open and lay under it but I'd like to move to a quilt. I think you are on the right track but agree the other providers may be better than REI. But I'm no expert.

NEIowapaddler: "I'm a very hot sleeper,...

... I use an Amok Draumr hammock with a sleeping pad...

.... Thoughts/opinions? "

NEIowapaddler,

You maybe in the wrong hammock. A traditional gathered-end hammock with an under-quilt, allowing a bit of heat to escape from below is mush easier. I spent my first year and a half with a pad inside my hammock. When I finally switched to under-quilts my comfort increased exponentially. There is nothing quite like being wrapped in down whether the weather is hot or cold.

I have never used the Amok Draumr but I have seen marketing videos so, I understand it has its own appeal. Can it be modified to accommodate an under quilt? Would you consider a gathered-end hammock?

The more direct response to your query: Yeah, top-quilts are great but, perhaps you could start with a simple quilted throw blanket. A sewn footbox is better when it's cold but, more cumbersome when trying to vent heat.

Good Luck

NEIowapaddler: "I'm a very hot sleeper, and I've struggled to find a sleeping bag that I don't overheat in during the summer. So I've been looking at quilts like this one since they're supposed to be slightly less insulating than bags of the same temperature rating.

But since I use an Amok Draumr hammock with a sleeping pad that slides into the hammock internally, I wouldn't be using the quilt exactly as intended, i.e. strapped around the pad, creating a cocoon like space. But that's what I'm trying to get away from anyway. If I wanted that I'd use a bag. So using this just draped over me like a regular quilt on a bed seems like it might be just the ticket for me. But before I dropped a couple hundred bucks on something, I wanted to see what the good folks here had to say. Thoughts/opinions? "

I don’t have experience with your specific hammock but I would add in my vote in strong support of a top quilt as well, they’re awesome and sounds like one would be a perfect fit for your needs. Definitely check out the brands mentioned above. I really like hammock gear’s quilts too, especially their “economy” line for folks looking to get into a quality custom top quilt at a good price point, but they only make up to a 40 degree bag, so a little warm for you.

Definitely look into enlightened equipment, I would specifically recommend you check out their Apex revelation. Apex is their synthetic fill, and while I usually use down for both weight and space savings, their apex in the 50 degree rating is amazing, and even lighter than most down bags of the same rating, including about 4 oz lighter than the one you linked and it’s even $30 less (depending on what size you choose, mine is about 12 oz). All of the down bags I have used from them are great as well.

I have the 50 degree apex revelation and love it for summer use. I have even used it to layer over a winter bag for extra warmth without compressing my down underneath, and as the outer bag it also ends up capturing any condensation and keeps my down dryer. Since it’s synthetic it handles moisture better. It’s a very versatile and lightweight bag.

I have not used the one you linked, as I stick with the cottage manufacturers for quilts. I might be a little leery of a waterproof shell. It sounds like a nice thing to have in theory, but in a quilt it will not breathe as well.

Any more questions just ask. I’m no expert but have used and own a variety of quilts.

Lawnchair107: "

NEIowapaddler: "I'm a very hot sleeper, and I've struggled to find a sleeping bag that I don't overheat in during the summer. So I've been looking at quilts like this one since they're supposed to be slightly less insulating than bags of the same temperature rating.


But since I use an Amok Draumr hammock with a sleeping pad that slides into the hammock internally, I wouldn't be using the quilt exactly as intended, i.e. strapped around the pad, creating a cocoon like space. But that's what I'm trying to get away from anyway. If I wanted that I'd use a bag. So using this just draped over me like a regular quilt on a bed seems like it might be just the ticket for me. But before I dropped a couple hundred bucks on something, I wanted to see what the good folks here had to say. Thoughts/opinions? "

100% fan of the topquilt. The freedom the quilt provides is awesome. I never strap mine if I’m on the ground. Honestly, if you’re gonna drop 200-250$ from REI, I’d go look at UGQ, Warbonnet, Enlightened Equipment for a little more bang for your buck. "

+1 I agree.

OCDave: "

NEIowapaddler: "I'm a very hot sleeper,...


... I use an Amok Draumr hammock with a sleeping pad...


.... Thoughts/opinions? "

NEIowapaddler,


You maybe in the wrong hammock. A traditional gathered-end hammock with an under-quilt, allowing a bit of heat to escape from below is mush easier. I spent my first year and a half with a pad inside my hammock. When I finally switched to under-quilts my comfort increased exponentially. There is nothing quite like being wrapped in down whether the weather is hot or cold.


I have never used the Amok Draumr but I have seen marketing videos so, I understand it has its own appeal. Can it be modified to accommodate an under quilt? Would you consider a gathered-end hammock?


The more direct response to your query: Yeah, top-quilts are great but, perhaps you could start with a simple quilted throw blanket. A sewn footbox is better when it's cold but, more cumbersome when trying to vent heat.


Good Luck"

I do love this hammock, it's the first time I've been able to get a good night's sleep while camping in my life. But there's no question it's not ideal for warm weather for a hot sleeper, so you have a good point there. I can't see myself changing hammocks, though, since this is my only complaint about the Draumr. And it's not a deal-breaker for me. I do have a traditional gathered-end hammock as well, and I like it for naps or just reading for a couple hours, but I don't think my back would like spending 7 or 8 hours in it when actually sleeping.

shouldertripper: "

NEIowapaddler: "I'm a very hot sleeper, and I've struggled to find a sleeping bag that I don't overheat in during the summer. So I've been looking at quilts like this one since they're supposed to be slightly less insulating than bags of the same temperature rating.


But since I use an Amok Draumr hammock with a sleeping pad that slides into the hammock internally, I wouldn't be using the quilt exactly as intended, i.e. strapped around the pad, creating a cocoon like space. But that's what I'm trying to get away from anyway. If I wanted that I'd use a bag. So using this just draped over me like a regular quilt on a bed seems like it might be just the ticket for me. But before I dropped a couple hundred bucks on something, I wanted to see what the good folks here had to say. Thoughts/opinions? "

I don’t have experience with your specific hammock but I would add in my vote in strong support of a top quilt as well, they’re awesome and sounds like one would be a perfect fit for your needs. Definitely check out the brands mentioned above. I really like hammock gear’s quilts too, especially their “economy” line for folks looking to get into a quality custom top quilt at a good price point, but they only make up to a 40 degree bag, so a little warm for you.


Definitely look into enlightened equipment, I would specifically recommend you check out their Apex revelation. Apex is their synthetic fill, and while I usually use down for both weight and space savings, their apex in the 50 degree rating is amazing, and even lighter than most down bags of the same rating, including about 4 oz lighter than the one you linked and it’s even $30 less (depending on what size you choose, mine is about 12 oz). All of the down bags I have used from them are great as well.


I have the 50 degree apex revelation and love it for summer use. I have even used it to layer over a winter bag for extra warmth without compressing my down underneath, and as the outer bag it also ends up capturing any condensation and keeps my down dryer. Since it’s synthetic it handles moisture better. It’s a very versatile and lightweight bag.

I have not used the one you linked, as I stick with the cottage manufacturers for quilts. I might be a little leery of a waterproof shell. It sounds like a nice thing to have in theory, but in a quilt it will not breathe as well.

Any more questions just ask. I’m no expert but have used and own a variety of quilts. "

Thanks, that's really helpful. I like the look of that Apex Revelation a lot. It looks like it checks all the boxes for me, and the fact that it's a little cheaper is a nice bonus. I'll do some more research, but that one might be a winner. I realize this is a hard question to answer since everyone's different, but what would you say is the minimum temperature for comfort with that 50° quilt?

Love my Enlighten Equipment quilt

I have been sleeping in my hammock for almost two years.... Outside... Almost every night. Sleeping bags make fine top quilts. And if you ever go to a slumber party, you have it. But yeah, unzip the bag, use it as a blanket... Yuck your feet into the bottom pocket... The blanket stays out as you move around.

I have a lightweight down, North Face Cats Meow from 1987 that's still awesome. In the winter I switch to my REI -20 down bag. I find it most comfortable to have a cotton blanket summer or winter. Sometimes in the summer...the cotton blanket in or off, is all that's in the hammock with the sleeping bag nearby. The cotton feels nicer against skin than the nylon... especially when hot or very cold. It also forms some protection from your body oils getting the bag dirty over time. Easier to wash the blanket. (However, taking the blanket to laundromat two days ago... It got stolen out of the dryer. Bastidges.)

You want an Enlightened Equipment Revelation down top quilt.
Also, your napping gathered-end hammock isn't the same as a dedicated camping hammock that one sleeps in. Hammock campers will typically use either a bridge hammock like the Dutchware Banyon, or a gathered-end asymmetrically cut hammock like the Dutchware Chameleon. These hammocks allow you to sleep flat on your back, side or even your stomach.

unshavenman: "You want an Enlightened Equipment Revelation down top quilt.
Also, your napping gathered-end hammock isn't the same as a dedicated camping hammock that one sleeps in. Hammock campers will typically use either a bridge hammock like the Dutchware Banyon, or a gathered-end asymmetrically cut hammock like the Dutchware Chameleon. These hammocks allow you to sleep flat on your back, side or even your stomach."

The Amok Draumr that I use is a lay-flat design, and I chose it for that very reason. It works extremely well, too.

NEIowapaddler: "

unshavenman: "You want an Enlightened Equipment Revelation down top quilt.
Also, your napping gathered-end hammock isn't the same as a dedicated camping hammock that one sleeps in. Hammock campers will typically use either a bridge hammock like the Dutchware Banyon, or a gathered-end asymmetrically cut hammock like the Dutchware Chameleon. These hammocks allow you to sleep flat on your back, side or even your stomach."

The Amok Draumr that I use is a lay-flat design, and I chose it for that very reason. It works extremely well, too. "

I also use an Amok Draumr, just came out from a week long trip on Tuesday. I use a 30 degree quilt in it and that works really well. I also have a couple thinner down camping blankets that I can use in warmer weather if the quilt is too much. When I use the quilt I use it as a blanket and do not cinch the bottom footbox together. I like a little more freedom to move. Has been a great system!

NEIowapaddler: "

shouldertripper: "

NEIowapaddler: "I'm a very hot sleeper, and I've struggled to find a sleeping bag that I don't overheat in during the summer. So I've been looking at quilts like this one since they're supposed to be slightly less insulating than bags of the same temperature rating.



But since I use an Amok Draumr hammock with a sleeping pad that slides into the hammock internally, I wouldn't be using the quilt exactly as intended, i.e. strapped around the pad, creating a cocoon like space. But that's what I'm trying to get away from anyway. If I wanted that I'd use a bag. So using this just draped over me like a regular quilt on a bed seems like it might be just the ticket for me. But before I dropped a couple hundred bucks on something, I wanted to see what the good folks here had to say. Thoughts/opinions? "

I don’t have experience with your specific hammock but I would add in my vote in strong support of a top quilt as well, they’re awesome and sounds like one would be a perfect fit for your needs. Definitely check out the brands mentioned above. I really like hammock gear’s quilts too, especially their “economy” line for folks looking to get into a quality custom top quilt at a good price point, but they only make up to a 40 degree bag, so a little warm for you.



Definitely look into enlightened equipment, I would specifically recommend you check out their Apex revelation. Apex is their synthetic fill, and while I usually use down for both weight and space savings, their apex in the 50 degree rating is amazing, and even lighter than most down bags of the same rating, including about 4 oz lighter than the one you linked and it’s even $30 less (depending on what size you choose, mine is about 12 oz). All of the down bags I have used from them are great as well.



I have the 50 degree apex revelation and love it for summer use. I have even used it to layer over a winter bag for extra warmth without compressing my down underneath, and as the outer bag it also ends up capturing any condensation and keeps my down dryer. Since it’s synthetic it handles moisture better. It’s a very versatile and lightweight bag.


I have not used the one you linked, as I stick with the cottage manufacturers for quilts. I might be a little leery of a waterproof shell. It sounds like a nice thing to have in theory, but in a quilt it will not breathe as well.


Any more questions just ask. I’m no expert but have used and own a variety of quilts. "

Thanks, that's really helpful. I like the look of that Apex Revelation a lot. It looks like it checks all the boxes for me, and the fact that it's a little cheaper is a nice bonus. I'll do some more research, but that one might be a winner. I realize this is a hard question to answer since everyone's different, but what would you say is the minimum temperature for comfort with that 50° quilt? "

I have used mine comfortably down to about 54 degrees on one occasion, wearing just boxers. I might be able to get to 50 comfortably but haven’t had the chance. I am a pretty warm sleeper. I haven’t tried but I’m sure I would be comfortable a little below 50 wearing base layers.

After staying in a bag for months in the service, I knew a quilt was the way to go. I love my enlightened equipment enigma & will be getting another in <=0* (I have a 30*). No zipper saves weight & less to go wrong.

shouldertripper: "

NEIowapaddler: "

shouldertripper: "

NEIowapaddler: "I'm a very hot sleeper, and I've struggled to find a sleeping bag that I don't overheat in during the summer. So I've been looking at quilts like this one since they're supposed to be slightly less insulating than bags of the same temperature rating.



But since I use an Amok Draumr hammock with a sleeping pad that slides into the hammock internally, I wouldn't be using the quilt exactly as intended, i.e. strapped around the pad, creating a cocoon like space. But that's what I'm trying to get away from anyway. If I wanted that I'd use a bag. So using this just draped over me like a regular quilt on a bed seems like it might be just the ticket for me. But before I dropped a couple hundred bucks on something, I wanted to see what the good folks here had to say. Thoughts/opinions? "

I don’t have experience with your specific hammock but I would add in my vote in strong support of a top quilt as well, they’re awesome and sounds like one would be a perfect fit for your needs. Definitely check out the brands mentioned above. I really like hammock gear’s quilts too, especially their “economy” line for folks looking to get into a quality custom top quilt at a good price point, but they only make up to a 40 degree bag, so a little warm for you.



Definitely look into enlightened equipment, I would specifically recommend you check out their Apex revelation. Apex is their synthetic fill, and while I usually use down for both weight and space savings, their apex in the 50 degree rating is amazing, and even lighter than most down bags of the same rating, including about 4 oz lighter than the one you linked and it’s even $30 less (depending on what size you choose, mine is about 12 oz). All of the down bags I have used from them are great as well.



I have the 50 degree apex revelation and love it for summer use. I have even used it to layer over a winter bag for extra warmth without compressing my down underneath, and as the outer bag it also ends up capturing any condensation and keeps my down dryer. Since it’s synthetic it handles moisture better. It’s a very versatile and lightweight bag.



I have not used the one you linked, as I stick with the cottage manufacturers for quilts. I might be a little leery of a waterproof shell. It sounds like a nice thing to have in theory, but in a quilt it will not breathe as well.



Any more questions just ask. I’m no expert but have used and own a variety of quilts. "

Thanks, that's really helpful. I like the look of that Apex Revelation a lot. It looks like it checks all the boxes for me, and the fact that it's a little cheaper is a nice bonus. I'll do some more research, but that one might be a winner. I realize this is a hard question to answer since everyone's different, but what would you say is the minimum temperature for comfort with that 50° quilt? "

I have used mine comfortably down to about 54 degrees on one occasion, wearing just boxers. I might be able to get to 50 comfortably but haven’t had the chance. I am a pretty warm sleeper. I haven’t tried but I’m sure I would be comfortable a little below 50 wearing base layers. "

Good to know, thanks!

I am a hot sleeper and was already just using my sleeping bag unzipped and draped over me (partially) so I made the switch to Enlightened Equipment quilts. Unless I actually need warmth in cold weather, I never bother to use the pad straps. Works fine.

I usually carry a 30 degree down quilt from May thru Sept. without using other layers, but would consider a 40 degree quilt. Not sure a 50 degree quilt would be worth the money just because of those occasional freak nights or you end up soaking wet and cold on a 52 degree day and need a quick warm up...nice to have some flexibility.

I've been enjoying the Feathered Friends Flicker 20 that I got this Spring. For the dead of summer it's a little warm, but I just got back on Friday from a trip up to Cherokee Lake and the overnight temps were about 55-60, I was pretty comfortable with it unzipped into the quilt configuration. I think the 30 degree would have been a better choice but I usually go up there in the Spring and the late Fall.

I sleep in a hammock with a 35 degree down bag used as a quilt. Just zip up the end about 1 foot to make a box. Something specifically designed for the task might be slightly better but I’m not looking to upgrade any time soon. From a gear head like me that is saying something.

Good luck!

I too have used a sleeping bag in top quilt mode. It worked well warmth-wise, but the hood of the mummy-style bag was a nuisance. I would fold it down and that would overheat my chest. Tucking it off to the side would tend to uncover the opposite shoulder. I finally settled on a mostly covered shoulder and a partially covered face. Not perfect, but workable.

I never liked feeling confined in a sleeping bag and when quilts became popular I was an eager convert. The underquilt is a must. For top quilt I use one or more of three, 30 degree down with snaps for footbox, an army poncho liner (in use since 1971 with new replacements as needed) and a simple down throw picked up at COSTCO a couple years ago. On a recent weekend outing I used nothing when temps were high 70's and added the poncho liner when it got into the 60's. The quilt takes over in the 50's and layers are added with the coldest I have slept comfortable is in the 20's. As I age I do require more insulation.