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Boundary Waters Quetico Forum Group Forum: Solo Tripping Trimming the canoe |
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04/19/2011 01:54PM
Here is my rule of thumb.
Most conditions keep it level front to back and side to side.
Paddling into a head wind try to get the bow down a bit.
Paddling with a strong wind try to get the stern down a bit.
I keep a pack in the bow to help-I push it forward with my paddle and move my seat (I have a sliding center seat) forward if I am headed into the wind.
I pull the pack back towards me and push my seat back if going with the wind.
Easy way to tell if you are trimmed is look at water in bottom of canoe. I also know some who get a small bubble level and attach it to the bottom to help with trim.
Most conditions keep it level front to back and side to side.
Paddling into a head wind try to get the bow down a bit.
Paddling with a strong wind try to get the stern down a bit.
I keep a pack in the bow to help-I push it forward with my paddle and move my seat (I have a sliding center seat) forward if I am headed into the wind.
I pull the pack back towards me and push my seat back if going with the wind.
Easy way to tell if you are trimmed is look at water in bottom of canoe. I also know some who get a small bubble level and attach it to the bottom to help with trim.
"When a man is part of his canoe, he is part of all that canoes have ever known." Sigurd F. Olson WWJD
04/19/2011 04:24PM
I do much the same as Bogs. In my Magic, I put my main pack directly behind my seat, and a bow pack in the bow, and push it forward with the paddle, and pull it back, when needed with a small rope that is attached to it. The rope remains attached, and is stuffed in a zippered side pocket.
"I am haunted by waters"~Norman Maclean "A River Runs Through It"
04/19/2011 04:43PM
quote nojobro: "So what should the water in the bottom of the canoe be doing if it's properly trimmed?"
If you're stern heavy, the water will be towards the stern; if you're bow heavy, the water will be towards the stern; if your trim is level, the water will be centered at balance (or pivot) point. Think of it kind of like a teeter-totter at the playground.
04/19/2011 06:37PM
bogwalker has the right advice.on my first solo in a new Prospector,16 feet,i had to really pile the packs way forward and semi stacked to get the right trim.the next year i moved the seat forward--i did a complex and sort of goofy post about that--to get the right trim and now i run level with both packs down low and forward of the carry bar so they are like another person weight wise where the seat would be.
it's just a level trail thru the woods.
04/20/2011 09:49PM
When traveling empty:
I have a couple of 20 liter SealLine Baja bags (dry bags) that I use for ballast and trimming. I fill them with water (like a big water balloon) and place them where needed. I don't like the idea of putting rocks in the canoe. If I have to portage, I dump the bags and fill on the other side.
20 liters = about 5 gallons = about 40 lbs
I have a couple of 20 liter SealLine Baja bags (dry bags) that I use for ballast and trimming. I fill them with water (like a big water balloon) and place them where needed. I don't like the idea of putting rocks in the canoe. If I have to portage, I dump the bags and fill on the other side.
20 liters = about 5 gallons = about 40 lbs
"Boredom, Tyler - that's what's wrong. And how do you beat boredom, Tyler?... Adventure...(Never Cry Wolf, 1983)
04/21/2011 11:16AM
You'll know if you've got things trimmed right when you paddle into a stiff wind. If you're stern-heavy, you'll be whipped around and unable to turn back into the wind. Happened to me a couple years ago as I packed up to move from a campsite. Hit the water and next thing I know I'm heading downwind away from my destination. After about 50 yards, I was able to get back on shore, "retrim" the load and head back into the wind. Doh!!
Do what you can, with what you have, where you are -- Teddy Roosevelt
04/21/2011 11:51PM
quote HighPlainsDrifter: "When traveling empty:
I have a couple of 20 liter SealLine Baja bags (dry bags) that I use for ballast and trimming. I fill them with water (like a big water balloon) and place them where needed. I don't like the idea of putting rocks in the canoe. If I have to portage, I dump the bags and fill on the other side.
20 liters = about 5 gallons = about 40 lbs"
I use something similar, but I'm cheap. Over the years I have acquired the bags from wine boxes and the coffee-in-a-box dealees Caribou or Starbucks have, and use these. I like the coffee ones the best because the caps screw on and won't get bumped open, and coffee ones can dump the water faster. You wine box users know what I mean.
For trimming you can adjust load (packs, etc.) and/or your seat/foot bar if your seat moves. The easiest way to be sure is stick one of the level bubbles suggested above into your canoe. Make sure your canoe is on a level surface. In other words make sure the bubble of your level is centered when on the surface you're putting your canoe on. Then stick the level on the inside of the canoe somewhere where you won't bump it; making sure the bubble is in the middle of the level as you stick it on.
For starters keep the canoe level. This is the best all-around position. HOWEVER, if you have time to adjust before hitting open water and you know where the wind is coming from before you get out of that bay then trim like this: the bow should ride slightly higher in a tailwind and slightly lower in a headwind.
Hope my rambling makes sense.
This is what I mean by Coffee-in-a-box .
"You guys might not know this, but I consider myself a bit of a loner. I tend to think of myself as a one-man wolf pack." - Alan Garner, The Hangover.
04/28/2011 12:19PM
quote bogwalker: "Here is my rule of thumb.
Most conditions keep it level front to back and side to side.
Paddling into a head wind try to get the bow down a bit.
Paddling with a strong wind try to get the stern down a bit.
I keep a pack in the bow to help-I push it forward with my paddle and move my seat (I have a sliding center seat) forward if I am headed into the wind.
I pull the pack back towards me and push my seat back if going with the wind.
Easy way to tell if you are trimmed is look at water in bottom of canoe. I also know some who get a small bubble level and attach it to the bottom to help with trim."
If you have an adjustable seat, set it in the middle position before trimming out with the pack placement. This way, you should only have to move the seat position rather than moving the packs when travel direction changes in relationship to the wind direction.
The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up. 'Paul Valery
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