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Boundary Waters Quetico Forum Group Forum: Solo Tripping Packing a Magic |
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08/31/2011 07:19PM
Bell lists the "optimum loading" as 160-280 lbs, with a maximum capacity of what looks like 650 lbs, so 335 is a little over the optimum handling level, but should fit fine. You'll sink it by four inches compared to empty floating if I'm reading this right.
08/31/2011 09:34PM
I have the Kondos Guide pack too. I couldn't get enough into it and the 30L barrel, so I had to go to the #3 pack. I just looked at the explorer. If I get the Magic looks like I'll be getting a new pack in the future. Thanks for the help Kanoes!
09/01/2011 02:01PM
Watch it. The Magic is swedeform. Swedeform hulls are trim sensitive. I have done as you are doing.
I won't do it again. The dog would not lie down in the bow but more important the bow was not light enough and steering was difficult. I had a 20 mile an hour crosswind and the boat wallowed badly in two foot waves. Normally I can swing the boat around if the boat is light enough in the bow and I can wind ferry.
For your own safety get a bigger boat. The pack is the least of your troubles.
I won't do it again. The dog would not lie down in the bow but more important the bow was not light enough and steering was difficult. I had a 20 mile an hour crosswind and the boat wallowed badly in two foot waves. Normally I can swing the boat around if the boat is light enough in the bow and I can wind ferry.
For your own safety get a bigger boat. The pack is the least of your troubles.
09/02/2011 09:59AM
quote chesapeakes: "YellowCanoe, what canoe do you recommend? I've used and liked the Encounter."
I dont know what is available to you! I dont know much about Wenonah Solos.
Best to test what is available to you with the load that you intend to trip with. On a nasty windy day if possible.
I have very good luck with my Curtis Nomad but how often do you see those?
Also let your dog decide whats comfortable. Mine loves the Swift Raven for tripping as it gives her the room she demands. Its a huge boat for me for portaging and would be last in a race with Wenonahs.
09/02/2011 09:17PM
quote chesapeakes: "I test paddled a Magic today. Had to lay the #3 pack on it's side in back 30L barrel in front dog between the legs. Not much room left. Felt a little cramped and unstable.
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Who was cramped? If your dog was nestling against you that was good!
Remember according to me anyway your dog rules.. If your dog was comfy and you felt unstable..keep paddling and try to get used to it. You will adapt with time. Dogs however tell you right away if they feel off or uncomfortable. And they don't ever change their mind.
But if your inner gut says "bad idea"..trust it. You have to paddle your own trip and not our opinion of what your trip should be.
09/02/2011 09:26PM
quote yellowcanoe: "quote chesapeakes: "I test paddled a Magic today. Had to lay the #3 pack on it's side in back 30L barrel in front dog between the legs. Not much room left. Felt a little cramped and unstable.
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Who was cramped? If your dog was nestling against you that was good!
Remember according to me anyway your dog rules.. If your dog was comfy and you felt unstable..keep paddling and try to get used to it. You will adapt with time. Dogs however tell you right away if they feel off or uncomfortable. And they don't ever change their mind.
But if your inner gut says "bad idea"..trust it. You have to paddle your own trip and not our opinion of what your trip should be."
agree
09/05/2011 08:38PM
just chiming in... I have a RockStar.
and a 65 pound lab named Molly.
I have 55 lb Explorer Pack.
I have a 33 lb RuckSack with Bear Vaults in it
the girl named Molly sits in the front
I weigh 220 (don't tell anyone this)
It works great for me.
the two other packs, portage yoke etc goes in back of canoe
SunCatcher
and a 65 pound lab named Molly.
I have 55 lb Explorer Pack.
I have a 33 lb RuckSack with Bear Vaults in it
the girl named Molly sits in the front
I weigh 220 (don't tell anyone this)
It works great for me.
the two other packs, portage yoke etc goes in back of canoe
SunCatcher
"WWJD"
09/16/2011 07:25AM
quote yellowcanoe: "Yup. RockStar is Ravenesque. A Magic is comparatively anorexic.
BTW I have seen exactly ONE RockStar. Are you keeping them all in the Midwest?"
I've got one.... But I live in the midwest too.
Watch out for that rock!!!........ Oooo.... That's going to leave a mark...
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