So I am thinking of pulling the trigger on a Clark NX250. Since I have been stalking hammock sites for a while I notice that many ether make there own or use CCS(on this site) It looks like if I order without the fly I would save $55. Not all that much considering the total. Are the Clark flys good quality?(I have no reason to think otherwise) I also notice the Clarks have some curves to them. Does that make a difference in how well they keep wind and rain out? So many ?'s so little time. This will be my 1st camping hammock.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Clark owners, but I thought that their flys are "weather resistant", not weather proof. Meaning they can take a little moisture but not a good quality rain. I don't own a Clark, nor have even seen one. I believe a few members here have them. If other people have been making their own that should tell you that they aren't built to be used without a tarp of some kind.

If I were to buy one, I would get the fly, just to have it, and buy a quality tarp, that you know will keep you dry. A CCS, Warbonnet or similar light weight tarp. I'm a belt and suspenders kinda guy though.

My Clark tarp does not allow water through. however, there is a nylon loop where all the seams come together and I had to keep water from wicking through to that.

There's a lot better tarp out there than what Clark offers.

There are a lot of good tarp choices. If not to be used for backpacking, then weight is less of an issue and the choices are very broad. I prefer a larger tarp so that I have a bigger area to use, whether it is raining or not. Kelty Noah is a very popular, lower costs option. CCS is a very popular, very durable option.
Ultra high end would be a Hammock Gear or zPacks cuben fiber tarp.
Then there are the silnyl options like Warbonnet, MacCat, Etowah, etc.
Of course, the cheapest way is DIY. you can silnyl seconds at many sources.

Clark tarps are sil nylon and waterproof. I have their Vortex tarp for my NX-150.

I didn't like the coverage of the Vortex tarp even though it is the largest model they make. I purchased a WBB Super fly, again sil nylon, and like the way the ends have doors to enclose the hammock like you are in a tent.

The NX -150 was getting a bit small for my frame so I just purchased a Clark Flex 180. I saved $55 by not orderding a fly. I'll use my WBB Super Fly with the Flex 180 and use my NX 150 with Vortex fly as a backup or let my son use it.

I have an NX-250 with the Vertex fly, I have been in several heavy rains & have never got wet. I also purchase a Super-Fly for the door closing options, it also is a great fly. When my son trips with me I let him use the Vertex with his Mosquito Hammock & I use the Super-fly.

I am impressed with the quality of the Vetrex tarps construction & feel the sewing & overall quality is actually better than the Super-fly. But the Super-fly offers more coverage & is lighter.

In my opinion it is worth the $55 extra for sure!!!

Thanks. Ordered the super fly, now I just need to save a bit more $ for the NX250. I know I put the cart ahead of the horse but I just had to order something. I think I have gear fever!!!! It is a real sickness just google it, the meds I'm taking for it don't seam to be working.

quote twston: "Thanks. Ordered the super fly, now I just need to save a bit more $ for the NX250. I know I put the cart ahead of the horse but I just had to order something. I think I have gear fever!!!! It is a real sickness just google it, the meds I'm taking for it don't seam to be working.
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The NX-250 is a great hammock. It is slightly larger than my first NX-150 but otherwise the same.

Since you haven't yet purchased one, if you are a 'larger' guy, heck even if you aren't a larger guy, I'd recommend that you consider the new Flex-180 model. I recently purchased one and the size difference is amazing when comparing it to my NX-150. It can be used as a 2 person hammock, but I use the extra space for my gear. The entire pack comes inside with me. The 3rd rope gives a better hang which equates to better sleep.Since you purchased the WB Super Fly, you don't need the Vertex tarp and can take $55 off the listed price when ordering.

Dang now I cant decide on the Flex or NX250. It does not look like they have come out with the insulation for the flex yet but am sure they will. There web page (that I visit several times a week to drool) says late 2012. It looks like someone needs to update there web page. It would seem that I will be drooling for awhile since I just purchased new ski boots for an upcoming Steamboat trip.

You have to call the toll free number to order the z-liner for the flex. The website just hasn't been updated yet. I think it $160.00. The flex already has the factory velcro to accept the z-liner.

WB fly showed up today. Heck i'm excited and don't even have my Clark yet. Still cant't decide on the flex or 250. When I bike I often end up in the small town park on a picnic table but plan on taking my Hammock so the flex might not be the way to go with the 3 point deal. I have read every article and watched every video I can find on Clark & still can't decide.

Just decide. It's only your first hammock after all.
After you buy whichever one you do, you'll learn all the things you want to change about the thing and then buy another one. Then, you will repeat this process until you buy a warbonnet blackbird. :)
Or, you'll buy a new powertool called a sewing machine and make one yourself.

quote IBFLY: "Just decide. It's only your first hammock after all.
After you buy whichever one you do, you'll learn all the things you want to change about the thing and then buy another one. Then, you will repeat this process until you buy a warbonnet blackbird. :)
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Right, just cut to the chase and do up a Blackbird. It's a functional work of art.

quote twston: "WB fly showed up today. Heck i'm excited and don't even have my Clark yet. Still cant't decide on the flex or 250. When I bike I often end up in the small town park on a picnic table but plan on taking my Hammock so the flex might not be the way to go with the 3 point deal. I have read every article and watched every video I can find on Clark & still can't decide."

The neat thing about the flex is that it can still be setup and used with 2 attachment points. The 3rd attachment can even be tied to the same tree as attachment 2. Lots of flexibility.

quote TomT: "

quote IBFLY: "Just decide. It's only your first hammock after all.
After you buy whichever one you do, you'll learn all the things you want to change about the thing and then buy another one. Then, you will repeat this process until you buy a warbonnet blackbird. :)
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Right, just cut to the chase and do up a Blackbird. It's a functional work of art.



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I'd choose the Blackbird over my first ENO hammock, and even the Hennesey that my buddy has. But,it will always come in 2nd place to either of my Clark hammocks (NX-150 and Flex-180).

IMO Clark Jungle Hammock's are 2nd to none. Period.

Blackbirds may be the cadillac of hammocks but Clark's are the Lambourgini......LOL

I could not take it anymore. Just ordered my 1st hammock. The winner is NX250 with the Z-liner in camo. I was going to go with the plain green but decided to go camo in case I end up doing some stealth hanging while bike touring. Sometimes it better if the locals don't know your there. So excited. Will have to figure out the tying out to tree thing without knots. Don't know any of the fancy knots and like to keep things simple quick and easy. (Yes there is many jokes in there but I will refrain)

No knots to tie. Congrats on your choice of hammock. You'll be very happy with the Clark.

How-to video - Rappel rings

IT SHOWED UP TODAY!!!!YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Made a tripod deal over the weekend as I do not have trees in my yard and I can set it up inside the house or on the deck. So cool..