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upper iowa
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01/06/2009 08:45PM  
Wondering the history on how all the BWCA lakes got their names.

Who, when, how?? And speaking of how, how did they come up with some of those names?
 
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01/06/2009 09:47PM  
I know that some of the harder to pronounce Lakes were named for Ojibway terms. That's all I can offer on this one though...never thought about it really until you pointed it out. I will have to do some research.
 
The Great Outdoors
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01/06/2009 10:43PM  
Some had names from the Indian language, some were named by people for people, some names have changed from 30-40 years ago.
Three that come to mind: Tin Can Mike used to be Murphy Lake, Cyprus used to be Ottertrack, and Slumber Lake used to be Gangster Lake.
I believe that old Ely outfitter, Bill Rom, named a few lakes after his family, Becky Lake, Barb Lake, Roger Lake.(Close to the Man chain)
Don't know if these names exist anymore, but they were marked as such on older maps.
 
01/06/2009 10:53PM  
It's a good question. The origin of some lake names are very obvious due to their shapes (Gun, Hatchet, LLC's Lady Boot Bay). Or are descriptive (Boulder River, Hula, Moose River). Or named for area animals (Loon, Lynx, Beaver, Bald Eagle, Crocodile?) But you gotta wonder what was going on when they came up with Skindance and Neglige. Or Tin Can Mike. My own personal favorite BW lake name is Disappointment.
 
01/07/2009 06:46AM  
There is an area outside the BW south of East Bear Skin with a few lakes with names like Pea, Carrot, Potato, Bean, Ect. I have never been there but I can only imagine it must be very soupy. I think someone who did some naming had a cents of humor. (I know that is the wrong cents but can't get the spell checker to give me the right one)
 
01/07/2009 09:33AM  
I think Crocodile goes in the shape category rather than the animal category.

Tin Can Mike was named after Mike Murphy (thus the former name of Murphy Lake). Apparently Mike Murphy always carried and used a cup made from a tin can and got the nickname "Tin Can Mike".

One of the more interesting ones is what is now called Paulson Lake. It Used to be JAP Lake. Notice that JAP is all capital letters. That is because it was initials, I believe for John and Ann Paulson. Well some map maker "fixed" the mistake of all capital letters and changed the name to Jap Lake. Latter it was deemed pollitically incorrect and changed the name. Thank goodness someone knew the history and the name was changed to Paulson.

 
funinwinton
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01/07/2009 10:56AM  
I had always heard that Ella Hall off the 4 mile portage was named after a logger's daughter that drowned there. Might just be an urban legend though. I also heard that there was supposed to be a grave stone on the island there, but we weren't able to locate it on one of our trips. Used to be great bass fishing though.
 
airmorse
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01/07/2009 11:23AM  
Great question. I am very interested as well. Thanks for asking.
 
andym
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01/07/2009 11:47AM  
After seeing how many seemingly disconnected, minor little creeks are called part of the Kawishiwi river, I've decided that Kawishiwi must be Ojibway for we've run out of ideas and so let's call it Kawishiwi and get it over with. Although a google search came up with a book in the collection of the Minnesota Historical Society that says it means "river with many beaver houses." So, I think I'm right.

Definitely info that would be fun to have in a field guide.
 
HighPlainsDrifter
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01/07/2009 01:02PM  

And the South Kawishiwi River did not exist on the 1928 map. It was called Birch River. And that gets me thinking that construction of the low head dams near Lake One created the unusual split in the main channel of the Kawishiwi (near Lake One) into North and South Kawishiwi River. (keep in mind that the river is flowing toward Highway 1)

I am a big fan of the Kawishiwi
 
01/07/2009 04:09PM  
I found this picture of the Ella Hall marker on another blog.
The version of the story which accompanied the photo is that the owner of a logging camp married a 15 year old girl. The following winter, she fell through the ice and drowned. Mr. Hall then buried her on the highest point of an island. The marker was still there in August of 2007.

 
01/07/2009 04:14PM  
I forgot to add that Oyster Lake looks like it takes its name from its shape.
 
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01/07/2009 06:28PM  
JAP lake why they ever changed it I dont know.It is now Paulson lake and Trygve explained it to me that J A P was the initails of the person it was named for and now it is called Paulson the last name or intitial from J A P.

I liked JAP had a good ring to it that fit getting to that lake if you ask me anyway
 
01/07/2009 09:58PM  
I wrote this stuff for a Boy Scout program in the BWCA, it includes information on the Quetico too. Read on if you must.

As Lewis and Clark traveled the
Upper Missouri, they named
inflowing streams and lakes after
their relatives, party members, or
girlfriends. When they ran out of
girlfriends, they named rivers after
politicians (President Jefferson and
other supporters). The streams
had native names, of course, but
they were recording the land for the
first time for their culture; identifying
the landmarks was essential.
However, few of the names survive
on subsequent maps due to
the long delay in printing their journals.
French-Canadian explorers
like La Verendre faced a similar
problem when traveling through the
Quetico-Superior and used a similar
solution. Lakes were given descriptive
names (Rainy Lake for the
mist at its waterfall outlet), named
for their shapes, to honor sponsors,
and for girlfriends. On a 1975 canoe
trip on Lake of the Woods, my
troop had a similar problem. Most
of the islands had no names at least
on the map, so (lacking girlfriends)
we named the islands after ourselves.
Filling the blank spots on
the maps was important to all
kinds of people. During written
history, several cultures have come
and gone in the Quetico-Superior
canoe country. The first natives
recorded were the Dakota (called
Sioux by their enemies) who
yielded the unproductive but picturesque
land to the Cree and
Ojibway in the 18th century who
had moved in from the east. There
were a number of skirmishes in the
area, but the Dakota seemed to give
up the area much more quickly than
other areas such as central Minnesota.
The Ojibway were armed
with fur trade rifles, but to some
that explanation is insufficient.
Forest ecologists Clifford and Isabel
Ahlgren speculate that the hunting culture
Dakota were dependant on
large prey such as caribou, moose
and deer. The forest shifted to large
pines that were less suitable to
those deer; the Ojibway culture
was better adapted to the new landscape.
The Ojibway were more
mobile hunter-gatherers and preferred
birch bark covered wigwams
to Dakota hide covered teepees.
Since native tribes did not have a
written language, their maps were
mainly mental, names were passed
on by oral tradition As a result,
their lake names were often long
and descriptive. Batchewaung is
Ojibway for “a current going
through narrows.” Kahshahpiwi
translates to “the lakes flows
through continuously,” another
translation says “long, narrow lake
with high cliffs.” Even Ojibway
language experts have trouble translating
current names as the sounds
to European ears and the spellings
are not always accurate. Voyageur
names still dot the map and define
the fur trade routes. Deux Riveres
(two rivers), and Maligne (bad) are
some examples. Many place names
are English versions of earlier
names including Knife Lake (after
the hard, fine grained rock that was
quarried by the natives for cutting
tools), Curtain Falls was “rideau”
in French. As different cultures
moved through, the map names
changed. One of the next groups to
leave their mark was the loggers.
Many of the small lakes away from
the main canoeing routes needed
names so everyone involved could
communicate. It’s possible that
some of the female lake names
(Alice, Bernice, Fran and others)
came from the wives and girlfriends
of these isolated men. The Quetico
Park also honored World War I soldiers
by naming (off the beaten
path) lakes after them. Examples
include Devine, Fluker, Montgomery,
Belaire, Tubman, Tario, and
Wilbur. Bush pilots are represented
by Curtis, Ptolemy, Reid, and
Swartman. The Quetico also has a
tradition of naming lakes after park
personnel. Art, Atkins, Halliday,
Payne, Lemay, Hurn, Buckingham,
Dettbarn, Quinn, Rawn, and Valley
were all Quetico rangers. Naturalist
Shan Walshe received this
honor after his 1991 death. A
Friends of the Quetico booklet
states “This previously unnamed
lake, remote, surrounded by stands
of old pine at the end of difficult
portages was the kind of place that
Shan loved.” Of course, naming
lakes after plants, animals, and geologic
features was also common.
Local lore varies on how certain
lakes were named. Bill Magie was
an Ely canoe guide, surveyor, and
logger. In the book Wonderful Country
(edited by Charlie Guide David
Olesen) Magie states: “One time,
my boss told me, ‘Name some of
those places!’ So, we did. Hurn
Lake, that’s named after Walter
Hurn, the ranger at Kings Point.
Jeff Lake is named after a ranger at
Ottawa Island. MacKenzie and
Ferguson were surveyors that were
working’ on the park survey.
Delahey Lake-I was the guy started
naming’ it Delahey. Delahey was
the head Quetico ranger then. I
wrote him one day, I says, ‘Why
don’t you name some of those
lakes? There’s three or four right
in the center of the park that haven’t
got a name.’ Veron was his first
name. He named ‘em after himself!”
Well, he probably didn’t have
a girlfriend. Note: other sources
say that Delahey’s first name was
George. Depending on the map
scale, there may not be room to
print the names of all the map features.
As a result, officially named
lakes get additional names from
paddlers including Charlie Guides.
Lakes with double or even triple
names from various sources include
Darky/Spirit, Fishhook/Earl,
Donna/Irene, Argo/Trout, Tuck/
Caribou, Brent/Infinity, Pine/Island/
Nym, and Sanctuary/Lemay/Jenny.
There are probably a few wives and
girlfriends in these mixtures. When
Charlie Guides first started traveling
in Manitoba, many of the lakes
were unnamed, at least on the map.
So Lunch Lake became the name
for the resting spot in the middle of
the Obukowin chain of portages,
Scout Lake is our float plane cache,
Hot Dog is a long, skinny lake, and
even though we don’t know the
translation, Wapeskapek just
seems like an endless lake. The
Manitoba program started in large
part due to Real Berard’s canoe
route maps. In the Boundary Waters,
we can travel on Lakes One,
Two, and Three. From his first
maps on, Berard has predominantly
used place names from the native
Cree, Sasaginnigak Canoe Country
or Katunigan Route. “And doesn’t
that sound better than a number for
a lake?” he asks.

Some Lake Name meanings and origins
Amik - Ojibway for Beaver
Bitchu - Cree for Lynx
Blackstone - Leader of the last permanent
residents of the
Quetico, at the mouth of the
Wawiag River. He died in 1919
trying to get help when the
Ojibway group suffered an influenza
epidemic. In the spring,
the few survivors were moved
to the Lac La Croix reservation.
Cutty and Sark - a fast sailing clipper
or maybe after the whiskey
named for the ship.
Kawnipi - Ojibway for where there
are cranberries.
Keewatin - Ojibway for where the
north wind blows from.
Chatterton, Keats, Shelley - 18th-
19th century English poets.
Pooh Bah, Ko Ko (Falls), Yum Yum
- Characters in the Gilbert and
Sullivan opera The Mikado.
Nym - a character in Shakespeare’s
Merry Wives of Windsor.
Lac La Croix - translates from
French to lake of the cross, explorer
Sieur de la Croix drowned
there in 1688.
Tanner - after John Tanner, stolen
as a young boy in Kentucky to
take the place of a Shawnee
mother’s dead son, he became
famous by his Indian name
“White Falcon.” He was shot
and left for dead on “his” lake,
but was rescued by passing
Voyageurs.
Last, but not least Quetico - A
name of uncertain origin, which
one is correct? I don’t know.
A. version of a Cree word for benevolent
spirit
B. French for searching for route
to Pacific “Quete de la cote”
C. Ojibway for “bad, dangerous”
D. short for Quebec Timber
Company.

References used: Lob Trees in
the Wilderness by Clifford & Isabel
Ahlgren, A Wonderful Country by
Bill Magee, Lake Names of the
Quetico Provincial Park published
by The Friends of the Quetico Park,
The Map Maker by Carole Bhakar
and Judy Lord in Manitoba Nature
magazine.
 
CabSauv
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01/10/2009 09:51AM  
Clrose--that is way interesting! Thanks for posting that. I think I'll copy it off to read to my partners around the campfire.
 
Jonroy
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01/10/2009 04:14PM  
Is Bower Trout lake a misprint that just carried over? I have seen maps that call it Lower Trout.
 
01/10/2009 06:37PM  
The name Lake insula comes from an indian word meaning something like "lake with many islands."
 
01/11/2009 10:47AM  
LT, you're correct.
 
Pirate
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01/11/2009 05:33PM  
First off... its you're; second, insula is Latin for island.
 
Speckled
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04/23/2013 02:49PM  
quote sotaman: "JAP lake why they ever changed it I dont know.It is now Paulson lake and Trygve explained it to me that J A P was the initails of the person it was named for and now it is called Paulson the last name or intitial from J A P.

I liked JAP had a good ring to it that fit getting to that lake if you ask me anyway.

JAP stood for James and Ann Paulsen.

 
1lookout
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04/23/2013 04:03PM  
Yes, there is Upper and Bower Trout...Story I can't remember, but was a survey mistake thing that went to printer of the map.

Saganaga.. Lake of Islands in Objibway,. Little Long Lake was Shagawa
and Shagawa it was something like Kashapiwi? It's on old maps.
Ottertrack was Cypress.
Miles Island on Seagull after my relative Uncle Miles.
I heard one time the Vegatable Chain was named by the same surveyor
who screwed up Bower Trout, and only ate certain Vegatables on certain days, Then he went to Swollen Ankle.

Funny is Twin Lakes N of Gm, if you fly over 1 is blue,the other green!
I used to know this stuff, maybe I'll look back into it!
wonderful thread!

 
Basspro69
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04/23/2013 07:32PM  
quote sotaman: "JAP lake why they ever changed it I dont know.It is now Paulson lake and Trygve explained it to me that J A P was the initails of the person it was named for and now it is called Paulson the last name or intitial from J A P.

I liked JAP had a good ring to it that fit getting to that lake if you ask me anyway"

It was changed because that name has negative connotations for a certain ethnic group.
 
04/23/2013 09:00PM  
CLRose, thanks. I really like this kind of stuff, and you have really contributed a lot of it.

I had heard that the timber cruisers named a lot of the lakes, but clrose explains the why of it.

And a little complaint: Do we really need to correct another member's misspellings or grammar? That kind of thing could discourage a person from contributing again, and then we lose their input.
 
04/23/2013 09:04PM  
The Woodland Caribou Lakes are named by shape. Mexican Hat... Telescope... But I don't spend time looking at Johnson Lake.
 
Basspro69
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04/23/2013 09:13PM  
quote Pirate: "First off... its you're; second, insula is Latin for island."

First off this is bwca.com, not a college writing class, maybe 5 of the thousands of members on this site care about perfect spelling, punctuation,syntax and the like. Class is out, no need to correct anyones assignment paper here.
 
schweady
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04/23/2013 09:59PM  
quote Basspro69: " Class is out, no need to correct anyones assignment paper here."


anyones ? :) :) :)

had to be on porpoise. :) :) :)
 
04/23/2013 10:14PM  
clrose, you have to post more, 17 posts is not enough :) great info.
 
Arlo Pankook
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04/23/2013 10:19PM  
Johnson lake, that never gets old.
 
04/24/2013 12:12AM  

Per Kevin Callan's "Wilderness Quest" video, Shan Walshe Lake in Quetico Provincial Park was named for Quetico Park Naturalist Shan Walshe after his death in 1991.

Shan Walshe was the Quetico Park Naturalist from 1970 until his death in 1991 at age 55. The majority of specimens in Quetico's herbarium were collected by Shan Walshe.

He identified and described the ecology of the 650 species of vascular plants found in Quetico Park. Shan, wife Margie, and four children lived in a log cabin on French Lake in Quetico Provincial Park from 1974 to 1991. He left behind a legacy of research, botanical slides, photographs, herbarium specimens, and many stories.

(Information re-printed from wwww.northernontarioflora.ca/biography)

Hans Solo
 
Basspro69
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04/24/2013 07:51AM  
quote schweady: "
quote Basspro69: " Class is out, no need to correct anyones assignment paper here."

anyones ? :) :) :)
had to be on porpoise. :) :) :). "

LOL , Yep it was :-)
 
Basspro69
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04/24/2013 07:53AM  
quote Arlo Pankook: "Johnson lake, that never gets old."

:-)
 
04/24/2013 07:57AM  
Yes and, if I understand right, Shan's daughter, Shannon, is the biologist for Wabakimi Provincial Park.
 
Jackfish
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05/17/2013 08:55AM  
quote Pirate: "First off... its you're; second, insula is Latin for island."

Pirate, if you're going to criticize someone else's spelling and/or punctuation, I would suggest taking care of your own first. Your use of the word "its" in your criticizing of someone else's post is spelled incorrectly. It should be "it's" since it's a contraction of "it is".
 
05/17/2013 10:25AM  
The most out of place name? Why Carp lake on the Canadian border?Really weird and was there even carp anywhere in the U.S. when it was named?
 
herb0021
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05/17/2013 10:48AM  
quote Jackfish: "
quote Pirate: "First off... its you're; second, insula is Latin for island."

Pirate, if you're going to criticize someone else's spelling and/or punctuation, I would suggest taking care of your own first. Your use of the word "its" in your criticizing of someone else's post is spelled incorrectly. It should be "it's" since it's a contraction of "it is". "


Okay, I think I can keep this going. Jackfish, in the second sentence of your respnose, you state the use of the word "its" is spelled incorrectly, which technically is not correct. You can't misspell an action. He misspelled the word "its", not the use of the word "its". You should have stated that his use of the word "its" is incorrect (with no refernece to the spelling).

By the way, I hope you take no offense, I just thought I would keep the chain or correction going. Has the chain ended? :)
 
Mike5914
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05/17/2013 11:35AM  
quote herb0021: "
quote Jackfish: "
quote Pirate: "First off... its you're; second, insula is Latin for island."

Pirate, if you're going to criticize someone else's spelling and/or punctuation, I would suggest taking care of your own first. Your use of the word "its" in your criticizing of someone else's post is spelled incorrectly. It should be "it's" since it's a contraction of "it is". "

Okay, I think I can keep this going. Jackfish, in the second sentence of your respnose, you state the use of the word "its" is spelled incorrectly, which technically is not correct. You can't misspell an action. He misspelled the word "its", not the use of the word "its". You should have stated that his use of the word "its" is incorrect (with no refernece to the spelling).

By the way, I hope you take no offense, I just thought I would keep the chain or correction going. Has the chain ended? :)"

No it has not - check your second sentence. Response.

 
herb0021
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05/17/2013 12:06PM  
quote Mike5914: "
quote herb0021: "
quote Jackfish: "
quote Pirate: "First off... its you're; second, insula is Latin for island."

Pirate, if you're going to criticize someone else's spelling and/or punctuation, I would suggest taking care of your own first. Your use of the word "its" in your criticizing of someone else's post is spelled incorrectly. It should be "it's" since it's a contraction of "it is". "

Okay, I think I can keep this going. Jackfish, in the second sentence of your respnose, you state the use of the word "its" is spelled incorrectly, which technically is not correct. You can't misspell an action. He misspelled the word "its", not the use of the word "its". You should have stated that his use of the word "its" is incorrect (with no refernece to the spelling).

By the way, I hope you take no offense, I just thought I would keep the chain or correction going. Has the chain ended? :)"

No it has not - check your second sentence. Response."

Bahhh...I knew I should have spell checked before submitting. I see at least two more errors in my response...

 
emptynest56
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05/17/2013 01:51PM  
The following are from the Ojibwe language:
Makwa-bear
Waboose-rabbit
Ogishkemuncie-kingfisher(as previously mentioned on BWCA.com}
Kekekabic-rock ledge at waterfall
Gabimichigami-probably a derivation of "big lake" as in Michigan

In Itasca County there are: Big and Little Dick Lakes, Pughole, and Jack the Horse Lake.
 
inspector13
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05/22/2013 10:07AM  
quote PINETREE: "The most out of place name? Why Carp lake on the Canadian border?Really weird and was there even carp anywhere in the U.S. when it was named?"


Sometimes the meanings of words change over time, Pinetree. The lake was indeed named after a type of fish found in that lake, but now that type of fish is known as trout.

 
05/22/2013 10:16AM  
quote inspector13: "
quote PINETREE: "The most out of place name? Why Carp lake on the Canadian border?Really weird and was there even carp anywhere in the U.S. when it was named?"


Sometimes the meanings of words change over time, Pinetree. The lake was indeed named after a type of fish found in that lake, but now that type of fish is known as trout.

"


Not doubting you, just curious where did you get that info? That must be some european thing?
 
inspector13
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05/22/2013 11:46AM  

Yes, an old European classification of fish with oily flesh. I first heard something about it in some biology class, and it was reconfirmed when a friend asked a ranger at Porcupine Mountains in Michigan why there are rivers there called Big and Little Carp Rivers.

 
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05/22/2013 06:05PM  
"Burntside" comes from the Chippewa "burr-n-tuss-sah-ee-d" meaning "lake too beautiful to ever be withdrawn from the people's access."
 
TuscaroraBorealis
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05/22/2013 08:42PM  
Lotsa good information here. BWCA glossary
 
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