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Boundary Waters Quetico Forum Trip Planning Forum Map preferences and why? |
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01/17/2021 04:34AM
With 2021 officially underway and EP reservations opening up next week, the trip planning (the best part) can officially begin! That being said, my group and I plan on getting a tow across Moose Lake to the Sucker/Birch portage. We will be heading east along the border to base camp on Knife or SAK. I was wondering if anyone had any map suggestion that cover that entire area? Its looking like I will need to buy two separate maps; correct me if I am wrong.
Also, I have used Fisher and Mckenzie maps in that past, but I was wondering if there were any brands other brands worth considering. I have not used Voyageur's maps yet.
Thanks & and Happy Planning!
Also, I have used Fisher and Mckenzie maps in that past, but I was wondering if there were any brands other brands worth considering. I have not used Voyageur's maps yet.
Thanks & and Happy Planning!
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01/17/2021 05:52AM
You might as well register and be an actual member...the trip planning bug will bite hard. I did that trip a few years back and I do recall needing at least 2 maps for Fisher. I always pack at least 2 map brands that cover my route in case of a mis-placed portage or campsite.
I really like Voyageur...you'd need 5 and 6. (can be bought from the site store here, otherwise they can be hard to find) True north is another brand, they're soft fabric...some like those now too. Wear it, stuff it in your pocket.
Oh yeah, don't be afraid to register!
I really like Voyageur...you'd need 5 and 6. (can be bought from the site store here, otherwise they can be hard to find) True north is another brand, they're soft fabric...some like those now too. Wear it, stuff it in your pocket.
Oh yeah, don't be afraid to register!
01/17/2021 09:15AM
I started carrying one of the regional maps, Fisher E-15, as backup. Maps can get lost and when the Pagami Creek fire blocked return through the numbered chain having a map to route out north was greatly appreciated.
01/17/2021 09:32AM
Yeah, or you could always pack one of the National Geographic (east or west) maps as those still do a decent job and do show basically half the park on each one. If you wanted a backup that still showed campsites and portages but wider view.
Anyway, to the OP I don't think you'll do that trip on one map no matter the brand. And that's a good thing...think of it as a badge of honor. And the longer and better your tripping the more maps you'll need per trip. A 4 map trip would be a dandy.
Anyway, to the OP I don't think you'll do that trip on one map no matter the brand. And that's a good thing...think of it as a badge of honor. And the longer and better your tripping the more maps you'll need per trip. A 4 map trip would be a dandy.
01/17/2021 09:42AM
McKenzie maps you will need:
#8 – Knife, Kekekabic
#9 – Snowbank, Basswood
#26 – This Man, Cache
The National Geographic map for the East BWCA includes everything from Knife eastward, but it does not include Moose, Sucker, Birch, Carp, etc. For those lakes to the west of Knife, you'll need the NG West BWCA map.
#8 – Knife, Kekekabic
#9 – Snowbank, Basswood
#26 – This Man, Cache
The National Geographic map for the East BWCA includes everything from Knife eastward, but it does not include Moose, Sucker, Birch, Carp, etc. For those lakes to the west of Knife, you'll need the NG West BWCA map.
01/17/2021 12:10PM
These days I always tuck a National Geographic map in the bottom of a pack as my emergency map if I need to do major rerouting or lose my other maps.
In my family, we carry a lot of maps because everyone is a control freak and wants to have their own set...lol. My son loves Fisher, my husband like McKenzie or True North, and I discovered Voyager maps last summer and am now a huge fan because I can read a Voyager map with my contact lenses in and no reading glasses. Most other maps force me to use reading glasses, partly due to scale and partly due to color contrast.
With this route, you will need more than one map unless it is very small scale.
In my family, we carry a lot of maps because everyone is a control freak and wants to have their own set...lol. My son loves Fisher, my husband like McKenzie or True North, and I discovered Voyager maps last summer and am now a huge fan because I can read a Voyager map with my contact lenses in and no reading glasses. Most other maps force me to use reading glasses, partly due to scale and partly due to color contrast.
With this route, you will need more than one map unless it is very small scale.
01/19/2021 10:41AM
cyclones30: "Yeah, or you could always pack one of the National Geographic (east or west) maps as those still do a decent job and do show basically half the park on each one. If you wanted a backup that still showed campsites and portages but wider view.
Anyway, to the OP I don't think you'll do that trip on one map no matter the brand. And that's a good thing...think of it as a badge of honor. And the longer and better your tripping the more maps you'll need per trip. A 4 map trip would be a dandy. "
I like the Voyageur maps because there is a map of the entire area on the back. But if I can only take one set, it is a Fisher for long term sentimental reasons. Typically I bring both Fisher and Voyageur.
paddlinjoe
01/19/2021 12:44PM
All three major companies are fine depending on what you like. But I agree that your back-up should be the National Geographic East or West for BWCA as they are accurate and detailed enough to do an entire trip, features are just smaller.
The back-up for Quetico would be the Chrismar map of the entire area. More accurate than any other map available, but features are even smaller.
I prefer the more compact Fishers for my main maps. Too many maps with McKenzie and plenty of mistakes. Voyagers are huge to me.
In order of detail size most to least:
Mckenzie-25*28, 2 inch per mile (very large detail)
Voyager-28.75*38.75, 1.5 inch per mile (largest area per map, no Quetico maps)
Fisher-22.5*28.5, 1.5 inch per mile (same size detail as Voyager, but smaller map)
Nat Geo East or West - Front and back of standard foldable map. 1.1 inch per mile
Chrismar (Quetico) - one side of standard foldable map 1 inch per 2 miles (this one is getting pretty small to navigate by, but is highly accurate compared to all the others)
The back-up for Quetico would be the Chrismar map of the entire area. More accurate than any other map available, but features are even smaller.
I prefer the more compact Fishers for my main maps. Too many maps with McKenzie and plenty of mistakes. Voyagers are huge to me.
In order of detail size most to least:
Mckenzie-25*28, 2 inch per mile (very large detail)
Voyager-28.75*38.75, 1.5 inch per mile (largest area per map, no Quetico maps)
Fisher-22.5*28.5, 1.5 inch per mile (same size detail as Voyager, but smaller map)
Nat Geo East or West - Front and back of standard foldable map. 1.1 inch per mile
Chrismar (Quetico) - one side of standard foldable map 1 inch per 2 miles (this one is getting pretty small to navigate by, but is highly accurate compared to all the others)
So many fish,so little time
01/19/2021 12:52PM
Like Boonie, I use all three. Before I leave, I compare one to another to insure portages and campsites line up. Though rare, on occasion a portage on one map is not on another...same with campsites. I make a note on the discrepancies before I leave. If I don't take a Voyageur with it's full BWCA map on the reverse side, I take the maps that adjoin the Fisher or McKenzie maps that I do take. That's a good idea in case of some kind of emergency, park closure, etc.
Mike
Mike
I did indeed rock down to Electric Avenue, but I did not take it higher. I regret that.
01/21/2021 01:09PM
Fecker: "...I feel the Voyager Maps have more to offer and are easier to read when out paddling. They have been a little harder to come by but worth grabbing."
They're not harder to come by anymore. They're available for purchase right here on BWCA.com. Buying your maps here also helps support the website.
"Keep close to Nature's heart, yourself; and break clear away, once in a while, and climb a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean." ~ John Muir
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