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Michwall2
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11/11/2019 07:52PM  
What's your weather whiplash story?

This year I went from mowing the lawn this last Saturday to blowing snow off the driveway today. I think that's the fastest transition from fall to winter yard work I've ever had.

 
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11/11/2019 08:05PM  
Have several over the years. Most recent that comes to mind is Spring of 2013. 86F on April 30th here in DSM than nearly 7" of snow on May 2nd and 3rd with a high of 35F on the 3rd. Didn't know what to do? Mow or blow?



But nothing like this - (from wiki)

The largest recorded temperature change in one place over a 24-hour period occurred on January 15, 1972 in Loma, Montana, when the temperature rose from -54 to 49 °F (?47.8 to 9.4 °C).

The most dramatic temperature changes occur in North American climates susceptible to Chinook winds. For example, the largest 2-minute temperature change of 49 °F (27.2 °C) occurred in Spearfish, South Dakota, a rise from -4 to 45 °F (?20.0 to 7.2 °C).
 
11/11/2019 09:18PM  
Michwall2: "What's your weather whiplash story?

This year I went from mowing the lawn this last Saturday to blowing snow off the driveway today. I think that's the fastest transition from fall to winter yard work I've ever had.

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My husband was mowing last evening and raking up leaves. Today we had eight inches or more of snow and he was trying to find the driveway. I think he has most of it blown off now.

 
airmorse
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11/11/2019 09:42PM  
I think this early cold snap is a good thing.

We need the cold to balance everything, kill the bugs (emerald ash bore). I'm tired of mowing the grass in December. In fact the only months i have not mowed the grass are January and February. And I live on the South end of Lake Michigan.

Cold and snow...bring it!!!
 
Northwoodsman
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11/11/2019 09:46PM  
It was 64° at 9:00 a.m. this morning and 34° by 3:00 p.m. The biggest part of that change was in 30 minutes between 10:15 a.m. and 10:45 a.m. The forecast low is 25° tonight. The winds kicked up with the front and we had gusts up to nearly 50 mph today.
 
11/11/2019 09:56PM  
I always marveled at the late spring days where we needed the heat on thru the night and then the AC on that afternoon when the warm moist Gulf air moved in to replace the cold Canadian air. I live in far SE Wisconsin not far from Lake Michigan.
 
mjmkjun
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11/12/2019 04:00AM  
This early cold snap caught the invasive asian ladybeetles off guard! Die Harmonia axyridis. Die! They usually come out of the surrounding woods by the thousands, day after day, seeking refuge into homes.
That's all I've got. Now, all I've got to do is keep the barnyard animals fed & warm, sit tight and wait winter out.
 
11/12/2019 07:13AM  
Pretty remarkable for S.IA in early Nov.
 
11/12/2019 08:58AM  


Early ice fishing in Ely this year? Brrrr....

Tony
 
11/12/2019 09:08AM  
If one is to believe the Automated Weather reporting sensor in Brownsville,TX- it's snowing. The earliest on record I can find. That's absurd for Nov 12th.
 
SevenofNine
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11/12/2019 11:21AM  
First trip ever to the BWCA in late September my buddy and I were in t-shirts (72°) on a Friday as we made our way to Wind Bay to setup camp. Next day we were in our winter coats and the wind and cold on Wind Bay made it brutal to be outside. Even after that experience I had the bug to go back to the BWCA. Love the place.
 
K52
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11/12/2019 12:24PM  
Here in SE Kansas it was 71 Sunday afternoon, that night at around 1 in the morning the cold front went through. We had falling temps with rain, sleet then snow through the day with steady 20-25 mph North wind with gusts to 45 and low of 11 degrees this morning.

Look up the Armistice Day storm of 1940, killed lots of people in the Midwest when that storm went through.
 
11/12/2019 12:35PM  
WhiteWolf: "Pretty remarkable for S.IA in early Nov.
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What kind of PWS do you run at home? We got an Ambient Weather Osprey this spring.
 
straighthairedcurly
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11/12/2019 09:15PM  
SNAP
5 days ago we were paddling on Lake Owasso.

Tonight, we were skating on Lake Owasso (still wore our lifejackets just in case, but not a single crack of the ice). It was an incredible night to be out...perfectly smooth ice, stiff breeze that blew us down the lake without us moving a muscle.
 
11/13/2019 01:26AM  
mirth: "
WhiteWolf: "Pretty remarkable for S.IA in early Nov.
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What kind of PWS do you run at home? We got an Ambient Weather Osprey this spring."


I used to have top end wireless Davis and Lacroose-- they lasted for about 20 years but since then trees have really grown up all around and I really have no place to accurately place the anemometer. I came across the one in the pic over the net and for $40 or so - figured why not. When your into the weather like myself, what's another weather station.? Ha!! I added 2 sensors (total of 3) and it's nice being able to measure temp in different locations and it's remarkably accurate (not totally-- off by about .5 to 1.0F too cool) - but I know the difference from comparing to my very accurate Kestrel and just adjust from there.

That Ambient Weather Osprey is a nice looking unit. With a solar radiation shield for that price (I just Googled) you can't go wrong. Do you like it and think it's accurate in it's measurments?
 
11/13/2019 12:16PM  
I've only had it since April but it's been within a degree of other PWS from my area that are reporting to WU. I want to get it permanently mounted to the roof but needed to wait until after we got a solar array put up. My wind readings aren't accurate for anything due to current placement.

The display unit is okay, I get dropped packets when I have the screen where I want it. There's an antenna mod I found which reportedly will help, I just usually have other things I'm doing and never get around to it.
 
missmolly
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11/13/2019 12:34PM  
straighthairedcurly: "SNAP
5 days ago we were paddling on the Lake Owasso.


Tonight, we were skating on Lake Owasso (still wore our lifejackets just in case, but not a single crack of the ice). It was an incredible night to be out...perfectly smooth ice, stiff breeze that blew us down the lake without us moving a muscle."


Whoa!
 
11/13/2019 06:50PM  
Do not know the date, But have heard it said that Miami had a record high and a record low on the same day for that date Can anyone confirm?
 
11/13/2019 06:50PM  
Dreaded double post.
 
11/14/2019 05:56AM  
I was up with my cousin thirty years ago in late October where we went in Moose River North. It was so warm... we paddled all the way to the daulgreen (stayed on Lac La Croix)... hunting along the way. I remember being shirtless. We got a few birds and had the best supper of grouse, rice and what not. In the night you could just feel the temps plunge and the next day we paddled our wearing everything we had it was so cold. We came out cause as we were sitting by the fire he happened to mention his wife was due any day with their first kid. Trevor was waiting and they had to finally had to do a C section end of November. (On my birthday haha) But it was amazing to us how warm (I’m sure it was 70) and how it was freezing the next morning.
Similar thing happened a few years earlier. I lived in Cloquet during both of these incidents, but I’d taken my little brother in law sort of backpacking into a remote site at Jay Cooke where it was warm like that going in and snow the next day coming out.
And yes, like straighthairedcurly we had open water not that many days ago and we have pretty good ice (helps is was around zero or below a couple three nights). But my one neighbor has been fishing out there a few days already in his ice shack.
 
11/14/2019 08:51AM  
bwcadan: "Do not know the date, But have heard it said that Miami had a record high and a record low on the same date for that date Can anyone confirm?"


Not sure about Miami. But this has happened with The Great Blue Norther of 1911 for several Midwest cities.
 
justpaddlin
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11/14/2019 01:40PM  
I'll just say that it's not unusual in the Fall to get some fallen leaves covered in snow but now we have six inches of snow and the snow is covered in leaves. Fortunately the now-common high winds helped to transfer some of my leaves to my neighbors...the leaves really scoot on top of the ice and snow.
 
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