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billconner
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06/27/2022 06:16PM  
Had to post this.
What is a Toilet Paper Tablet?
 
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Unas10
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06/27/2022 06:24PM  
I would give it a try, but until I am satisfied with the results, I will keep a back-up handy.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/b-Gly0No_P0
 
arnesr
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06/27/2022 06:26PM  
Wet toilet paper doesn't burn too well, so I guess this is not a good fit for use in Quetico. :)
 
straighthairedcurly
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06/27/2022 09:43PM  
I started using these 2 years ago and love them. Can't get anyone else in my family to even try them though.
 
Heyfritty
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06/27/2022 10:07PM  
straighthairedcurly: "I started using these 2 years ago and love them. Can't get anyone else in my family to even try them though. "

I thought this was a joke until straighthairedcurly commented.
 
06/28/2022 06:04AM  
TP tablets remind me of these. With a little care they can be re-used several times. One towel will last for a 3-4 day trip.
 
06/28/2022 07:43AM  
Though such compressed towels have been around for years, I never used them as TP, Liteload Towels

I do compress TP at home. Save 1/2 rolls or smaller, remove the cardboard core, vacuum seal them.

butthead
 
MikeinMpls
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06/28/2022 09:20AM  
Although tempting, this might be the one piece of gear I won't change.

Mike
 
4keys
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06/28/2022 09:25AM  
Ahh, each tablet is 1 wipe. Before watching the video I thought it would be a whole roll, and couldn’t imagine what you’d do with a whole roll of wet tp !

I usually bring both tp and wet baby wipes. This would reduce how much stuff I bring.

While I do vacuum seal a partial roll of tp, I keep that as my emergency back up. Once you cut it open you can’t seal it again, so my daily supply is kept in a ziplock.
 
ockycamper
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06/28/2022 04:15PM  
I have used EZ towels for years. Best thing there is for camping
 
tumblehome
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06/28/2022 04:56PM  
Holy crap, those are neat. I'm definitely going to buy some since they seem good for other things too besides poo.
I also will start bringing dehydrated H2O tablets for more space saving!
 
06/28/2022 06:00PM  
deerfoot: "TP tablets remind me of these. With a little care they can be re-used several times. One towel will last for a 3-4 day trip. "

I have used the above as towels. When I last worked I was located in a large county government building and I made friends with Steve a DD guy who worked there as a janitor. When he stopped by my cube to talk I noticed he had a number of the ends of large commercial tp rolls. He would drop them off every once in a while and I would buy him sodas. Even though I have been retired for quite awhile I still have a few left.
 
Savage Voyageur
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06/28/2022 08:10PM  
No way would I ever consider something as wacky as this. It’s toilet paper, don’t reinvent the wheel.
 
mschi772
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06/29/2022 07:48AM  
"Add water" compressed towels have a lot of uses, but for an improvement over traditional TP, I'd skip straight to a travel bidet--more comfortable and more clean than scraping paper over yourself, and much less waste.
 
Argo
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06/29/2022 11:07AM  
tumblehome: "Holy crap, those are neat. I'm definitely going to buy some since they seem good for other things too besides poo.
I also will start bringing dehydrated H2O tablets for more space saving!
"


I would be very careful of those tablets. They contain concentrated amounts of di-hydrogen monoxide which has been know to cause all sorts of health issues like excessive urination and perspiration.
 
MacCamper
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06/29/2022 05:51PM  
My daughter gave me a pack of a dozen Coleman compressed travel towels for Christmas. At the time I was very skeptical and set them aside with the Bear Grylls survival flint/steel I received at the same time. Going through my gear a year later I tossed a couple in my tool kit, first aid kit and personal kit. They have their application and I have really appreciated them on the trail. No bigger than a life-saver candy, they blow up into very sturdy towels. If the TP tablets work as well as the towels they will become a part of my duty bag. Advertised as biodegradable, they might well be a great alternative to TP. Anyone poop in the rain before and clean up with wet paper TP? Perhaps I will write a review.

Also +++ on vacuum packing small rolls of TP. Great idea Butthead, I compress typical three day supply and keep them at the ready in several places in my kit. Why risk getting a whole roll wet? And it is a space saver too.
 
tumblehome
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06/29/2022 07:05PM  
I did buy a 200 count package on Amazon today. These things look kinda neat. They even make big giant towels the size of a bar of soap.

If anything, I’m thinking stocking stuffers for my family. We like to buy each other goofy and practical gifts. But honestly, I’m taking some on my next trip, not to save space but I’m curious.

And yes, di-hydrogen monoxide is also an awful by-product of hydrogen combustion.

Tom
 
LarryS48
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06/30/2022 02:00AM  
They say they are biodegradable, but I wonder how long that takes. How long do you think they last in a cat hole compared to regular tp or to the fast breakdown tp they sell for RV black water tanks?
 
billconner
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06/30/2022 06:13AM  
The ones I looked at are 100% cotton, which is cellulose like toilet paper, so should decompose in several months.

I had no real interest in these until I read comments from users here. Now, I might consider packing some of these.
 
ockycamper
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06/30/2022 08:29AM  
We have never brought rolls of toilet paper since the first year when one of the boys left the roll out in the rain.

We moved to biodegradable wet wipes. No problem with getting wet. I can see these tablets as a replacement or backup. Standard tp just takes up too much space, has to be kept sealed and guys tend to use more of them in a wet wipe type product.
 
Argo
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06/30/2022 01:02PM  
My package of 500 arrived yesterday. These are a game changer.
 
missmolly
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06/30/2022 01:53PM  
I am convinced. Gonna make the change.
 
andym
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07/01/2022 12:03AM  
Heyfritty: "straighthairedcurly: "I started using these 2 years ago and love them. Can't get anyone else in my family to even try them though. "


I thought this was a joke until straighthairedcurly commented."


I didn’t think it was a joke but it seemed like a good setup. But yeah, way to ruin it by saying they work.

I will ask though, why not just carry a small amount of TP in a ziplock? I’ve never been so short on space that I couldn’t do that. Sort of reminds me of when I saw chopsticks that unscrewed in the middle to make them more compact. Or ostensibly more compact. Could never figure out when that would fit easier in my pack than regular chopsticks.
 
LarryS48
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07/01/2022 12:21AM  
billconner: "The ones I looked at are 100% cotton, which is cellulose like toilet paper, so should decompose in several months.


I had no real interest in these until I read comments from users here. Now, I might consider packing some of these."


So, they are 100% cotton just like some clothing. Wood is about 50% cellulose. Cotton clothing and wood do biodegrade but slowly. I am not saying that these wipes don’t decompose quickly. Heck, maybe they decompose faster than tp. I just don’t know. I require more evidence. Tp bombs last long enough. How long will a wipe bomb last? ????
 
billconner
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07/01/2022 06:10AM  
No guarantees on internet but this article suggests some of these decompose as fast as biodegradable TP, which decomposes faster than regular TP.
greenbelly article
 
07/01/2022 04:32PM  
Before taking these, I would try them at home for a week to test the product.
 
07/01/2022 07:47PM  
bwcadan: "Before taking these, I would try them at home for a week to test the product."

I'd need some ideas on how to use this product. Cut with a scissors? Fold? Double fold? Compare squares used of tp to tablets used.
 
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07/02/2022 09:48AM  
tumblehome: "Holy crap, those are neat. I'm definitely going to buy some since they seem good for other things too besides poo.
I also will start bringing dehydrated H2O tablets for more space saving!
"


"Holy crap"? I see what you did there, tumblehome!
 
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07/02/2022 09:49AM  
Argo: "tumblehome: "Holy crap, those are neat. I'm definitely going to buy some since they seem good for other things too besides poo.
I also will start bringing dehydrated H2O tablets for more space saving!
"



I would be very careful of those tablets. They contain concentrated amounts of di-hydrogen monoxide which has been know to cause all sorts of health issues like excessive urination and perspiration."


That was a fair and important warning, Argo! Even beyond what you've cited, in many cases di-hydrogen monoxide has been proven deadly!
 
07/02/2022 10:07AM  
Argo: "... They contain concentrated amounts of di-hydrogen monoxide..."

What is the source of this info?? Curious.
 
LarryS48
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07/02/2022 10:46AM  
bobbernumber3: "Argo: "... They contain concentrated amounts of di-hydrogen monoxide..."


What is the source of this info?? Curious."


The instructions in the article linked in the very first post says that dihydrogen monoxide is required to expand the tablet to a wipe.

“ The process is simple. Take out the tablet, sprinkle water on it or dip it in water. Quickly, the tablet expands, so you can use it for whatever you need.”

But perhaps you were asking what type of info is available to suggest that dihydrogen monoxide is dangerous. Every canoeist should know at least one answer to that. It’s why you wear a pfd.
 
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07/02/2022 10:53AM  
bobbernumber3: "Argo: "... They contain concentrated amounts of di-hydrogen monoxide..."


What is the source of this info?? Curious."


Speaking for Argo, I believe it is in the product description as necessary for making these tablets functional to their intended purpose.
 
07/02/2022 11:09AM  
bottomtothetap: "bobbernumber3: "Argo: "... They contain concentrated amounts of di-hydrogen monoxide..."



What is the source of this info?? Curious."



Speaking for Argo, I believe it is in the product description as necessary for making these tablets functional to their intended purpose."


I see... so it's not really IN the product. You have to add it. Wonder where you would get some? Sounds like it could be dangerous.

Still wondering about usage of the product.
 
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07/02/2022 12:23PM  
bobbernumber3: "bottomtothetap: "bobbernumber3: "Argo: "... They contain concentrated amounts of di-hydrogen monoxide..."



What is the source of this info?? Curious."




Speaking for Argo, I believe it is in the product description as necessary for making these tablets functional to their intended purpose."



I see... so it's not really IN the product. You have to add it. Wonder where you would get some? Sounds like it could be dangerous.


Still wondering about usage of the product."


Even though the use of di-hydrogen monoxide (DHMO) is often regulated, those that are looking for it will likely know where to find it. Should not be a problem for those on a BWCA trip who want to use the TP tablets.
 
ockycamper
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07/02/2022 12:54PM  
I can see it now on our trip this fall. One of the boys comes up and asks for the tp. We give him a couple of "tablets" and send him off. Nothing bad could happen with that!
 
LarryS48
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07/02/2022 01:01PM  
ockycamper: "I can see it now on our trip this fall. One of the boys comes up and asks for the tp. We give him a couple of "tablets" and send him off. Nothing bad could happen with that!"

Oh my! That boy probably has dihydrogen monoxide in his mouth and stomach. If he decides to eat the tablet, it would expand to a wipe, and those wipes are not flushable. I think it would clog his pipes.

TP tablets, dihydrogen monoxide and wipes, OH My!!!
 
Portage99
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07/02/2022 04:16PM  
straighthairedcurly: "I started using these 2 years ago and love them. Can't get anyone else in my family to even try them though. "

So, I'm picturing wet toity paper....they must be stronger than regular TP. Are they the consistency of paper towel? Baby wipes?
 
Argo
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07/03/2022 06:11AM  
LarryS48: "ockycamper: "I can see it now on our trip this fall. One of the boys comes up and asks for the tp. We give him a couple of "tablets" and send him off. Nothing bad could happen with that!"


Oh my! That boy probably has dihydrogen monoxide in his mouth and stomach. If he decides to eat the tablet, it would expand to a wipe, and those wipes are not flushable. I think it would clog his pipes.


TP tablets, dihydrogen monoxide and wipes, OH My!!!"


You make fun of me for raising the issue. But don't you realize dihydrogen monoxide can be found in our lakes and rivers...even in baby food!!!
 
07/03/2022 07:19AM  
Argo: "LarryS48: "ockycamper: "I can see it now on our trip this fall. One of the boys comes up and asks for the tp. We give him a couple of "tablets" and send him off. Nothing bad could happen with that!"



Oh my! That boy probably has dihydrogen monoxide in his mouth and stomach. If he decides to eat the tablet, it would expand to a wipe, and those wipes are not flushable. I think it would clog his pipes.



TP tablets, dihydrogen monoxide and wipes, OH My!!!"



You make fun of me for raising the issue. But don't you realize dihydrogen monoxide can be found in our lakes and rivers...even in baby food!!!"


To funny...
 
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07/03/2022 11:56AM  
Back to reality.

The first pack of 100 arrived here the other day. It took me the better part of five minutes to soak it and pull it out to its maximum size, which is about 15 inches by six inches. This is not something you want to be doing while your nether regions are exposed to the bugs.

I cannot imagine relying on just one for accomplishing a single wipe at a latrine. Plan on needing at least two for that, and four for a couple of wipes, minimum. These will only make sense for latrine duty if you take the time to rehydrate and at least partially dry them in advance of needing them.

I do think they will be very handy for pre-filtering water and for wiping the insides of fish cavities after they've been dressed. Ditto for grouse and hare, but any form of big game would be better done with something larger.
 
Argo
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07/04/2022 10:58AM  
gravelroad: "Back to reality.


The first pack of 100 arrived here the other day. It took me the better part of five minutes to soak it and pull it out to its maximum size, which is about 15 inches by six inches. This is not something you want to be doing while your nether regions are exposed to the bugs.


I cannot imagine relying on just one for accomplishing a single wipe at a latrine. Plan on needing at least two for that, and four for a couple of wipes, minimum. These will only make sense for latrine duty if you take the time to rehydrate and at least partially dry them in advance of needing them.


I do think they will be very handy for pre-filtering water and for wiping the insides of fish cavities after they've been dressed. Ditto for grouse and hare, but any form of big game would be better done with something larger."


It takes be about 10 seconds to unpack one.
 
ockycamper
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07/04/2022 11:31AM  
Argo: "gravelroad: "Back to reality.



The first pack of 100 arrived here the other day. It took me the better part of five minutes to soak it and pull it out to its maximum size, which is about 15 inches by six inches. This is not something you want to be doing while your nether regions are exposed to the bugs.



I cannot imagine relying on just one for accomplishing a single wipe at a latrine. Plan on needing at least two for that, and four for a couple of wipes, minimum. These will only make sense for latrine duty if you take the time to rehydrate and at least partially dry them in advance of needing them.



I do think they will be very handy for pre-filtering water and for wiping the insides of fish cavities after they've been dressed. Ditto for grouse and hare, but any form of big game would be better done with something larger."



It takes be about 10 seconds to unpack one.
"


I have used the towel versions of these for years. I just pour a little water on the tablet, then peel apart. 15 seconds tops. Also, why would you want to dry out the tp tablets prior to use? They would function much better wet, like wet wipes.
 
gravelroad
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07/05/2022 02:33PM  
Argo: "gravelroad: "Back to reality.



The first pack of 100 arrived here the other day. It took me the better part of five minutes to soak it and pull it out to its maximum size, which is about 15 inches by six inches. This is not something you want to be doing while your nether regions are exposed to the bugs.



I cannot imagine relying on just one for accomplishing a single wipe at a latrine. Plan on needing at least two for that, and four for a couple of wipes, minimum. These will only make sense for latrine duty if you take the time to rehydrate and at least partially dry them in advance of needing them.



I do think they will be very handy for pre-filtering water and for wiping the insides of fish cavities after they've been dressed. Ditto for grouse and hare, but any form of big game would be better done with something larger."



It takes be about 10 seconds to unpack one.
"


I discovered that I erred by immersing the first one and soaking it. Adding just a bit of water allowed me to unroll a second one easily. These are going to be exceedingly handy.
 
LarryS48
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07/05/2022 02:37PM  
My main concern is still how quickly will they biodegrade. I am sure they are light, take up little space and are relatively easy to use. However, leaving as little trace as possible and for the least time possible is important.
 
tumblehome
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07/06/2022 09:28PM  
Mine arrived today. They are quite fascinating. I’ll admit, I bought them for the ‘cool’ factor. Some people buy butane stoves, others tarps and things. I bought TP tablets.

I am going to put one out back in the woods and observe the decomposition rate. Based on the strength of the wipe compared to regular TP, I can bet it will take much longer to decompose. Still, as long as it does decomposes in short order, I’ll give it two thumbs up. Or one bottom up depending on the use.
Tom
 
LarryS48
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07/06/2022 09:55PM  
tumblehome: "Mine arrived today. They are quite fascinating. I’ll admit, I bought them for the ‘cool’ factor. Some people buy butane stoves, others tarps and things. I bought TP tablets.


I am going to put one out back in the woods and observe the decomposition rate. Based on the strength of the wipe compared to regular TP, I can bet it will take much longer to decompose. Still, as long as it does decomposes in short order, I’ll give it two thumbs up. Or one bottom up depending on the use.
Tom"


I would be curious to learn the results of putting one out in the woods. If you also put some TP out with it, the comparison would be useful. Please let us know how your experiment comes out.
 
jcavenagh
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07/11/2022 07:39PM  
My wife showed these to me.
She helps me prep for my trips.
I've never seen anything like this before.
 
Catrina
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07/15/2022 10:05PM  
The ends of the comercial TP rolls that Deerfoot mentioned are the best. I collect them too. Sorry, I need the real thing.
 
07/22/2022 06:40PM  
Catrina: "The ends of the comercial TP rolls that Deerfoot mentioned are the best. I collect them too. Sorry, I need the real thing."

I sure wish I hadn’t lost my steady source of supply on the commercial tp roll remnants when I retired 16 years ago. I am down to my last two rolls as pictured above in an earlier post.
 
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07/26/2022 01:23PM  
Will they burn as easily as to with the proper lighter? That is a preferred disposal step in the Quetico.
 
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07/31/2022 02:36PM  
gravelroad: "Back to reality.


The first pack of 100 arrived here the other day. It took me the better part of five minutes to soak it and pull it out to its maximum size, which is about 15 inches by six inches. This is not something you want to be doing while your nether regions are exposed to the bugs.


I cannot imagine relying on just one for accomplishing a single wipe at a latrine. Plan on needing at least two for that, and four for a couple of wipes, minimum. These will only make sense for latrine duty if you take the time to rehydrate and at least partially dry them in advance of needing them.


I do think they will be very handy for pre-filtering water and for wiping the insides of fish cavities after they've been dressed. Ditto for grouse and hare, but any form of big game would be better done with something larger."


Wow, what brand did you buy?! Mine take seconds and only a few dribbles of water to easily open up. I prep it while doing my business.
 
LarryS48
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08/07/2022 10:57AM  
tumblehome: "Mine arrived today. They are quite fascinating. I’ll admit, I bought them for the ‘cool’ factor. Some people buy butane stoves, others tarps and things. I bought TP tablets.


I am going to put one out back in the woods and observe the decomposition rate. Based on the strength of the wipe compared to regular TP, I can bet it will take much longer to decompose. Still, as long as it does decomposes in short order, I’ll give it two thumbs up. Or one bottom up depending on the use.
Tom"


So, it’s been about a month now. Did you put a TP tablet/wipe and some real TP in the woods? If so, how are they looking?
 
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