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paddlefamily
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08/14/2011 05:21PM   (Thread Older Than 3 Years)
How do you handle multiple maps? Do you keep them all in one map case?

We have large maps that we got from the outfitters. I was thinking of only keeping in the map case, the map(s) we need for that day and putting the others in the packs. Ideas?

Also, do you think its prudent to have satellite images along as well?
 
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ZaraSp00k
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08/15/2011 09:36PM  
I always take two copies of maps and keep them separate. Only have the maps I'm actually going to use that day out in plastic bag.

if you are going just north west of Lake Wabakimi, SAT won't do you much good since it is a view of the clouds

some SAT show shoreline good, others don't, it can vary greatly
 
08/17/2011 02:02PM  
After our recent trip, I suggest you get both the outfitters maps and the Wabakimi Project maps. We needed both to see ALL campsites and have portage measurements.
 
ZaraSp00k
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08/17/2011 09:36PM  
you are aware that most of the route you are going on, there are maps/trip reports that are better than any map you can buy, right?

In addition, you can get Canada topo maps for free online from the government server, that's where every Canada map originates, and you can also get Google maps and SAT for free from ... I guess I have the link at work. The latter maps are what I am using, you can custom center them and get a wide range of resolution, I make mine 1:25,000, that's twice as big as anything you can buy.
 
08/18/2011 10:18AM  
I like the Make A Map application and have been using it for some time. But the LIS maps do not show campsites or portages. For those of us who are used to the BW/Q, we need to know where the portages are, especially which side, since many of the portages in Wab and WCPP are much closer to the rapids than we experience in the southern parks.

One evening on our trip, we stopped to make camp and realized that the wind was blowing a forest fire right at us. We re-packed the canoes and headed out thinking we needed to go 8km to the next site (according to the outfitter's map). But the Wabakimi Project map showed a site much closer and it turned out to be very nice. The WP maps also give a very close measure of the portage lengths. Again, helpful when planning your day.
 
yellowcanoe
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08/18/2011 11:03AM  
Some outfitters are using the old Section sheets. They were somewhat accurate at one time..in the 1960's.

The Wabakimi Project maps are much more up to date as the project has been underway since 2005. Campsite inventory was a prime objective..the last campsite data was from the old fire maps of the 1930's.

I spent enough time there with a tape measure... Yes we carried topos and the old section sheets and the new ones if we were double checking data from 2005 or 2006.

None of the portages are marked BTW so you still need map reading skills to find them. Old blazes are the trail markers. There is no sign at the beginning and end.
 
ZaraSp00k
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08/20/2011 04:26AM  
quote yellowcanoe: Campsite inventory was a prime objective..

None of the portages are marked BTW so you still need map reading skills to find them. Old blazes are the trail markers. "


yeah, except that they decided not to include the campsite inventory

and people have had problems following the maps, having looked at them, I am deeply disappointed

seems to me trip reports are more accurate and helpful, best of all they are free!

maybe if they stop fighting and cooperate like in WCPP, we'd all be better off
 
ZaraSp00k
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08/20/2011 04:26AM  

 
yellowcanoe
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08/20/2011 08:46AM  
Perhaps you better talk to Barry Simon rather than complain. The maps you talk of are section sheets and not stand alone maps.

I have no trouble following them. And keep in mind that the campsite inventory is constantly changing. There were wipeouts due to forest fires this year.
 
paddlefamily
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08/29/2011 08:54AM  
We do have maps from the outfitter and Wabakimi Project. I will check out the google maps you can customize. I knew you could look online, but figured someone had good success somewhere specific. I have been reading trip reports. I was wondering how people handle/pack so many maps. I think we've got that covered.

Thanks for the help everyone!

Edit: Found customizable and printable Canadian topos here.
 
paddlefamily
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08/29/2011 01:32PM  
quote ZaraSp00k: "you are aware that most of the route you are going on, there are maps/trip reports that are better than any map you can buy, right?


In addition, you can get Canada topo maps for free online from the government server, that's where every Canada map originates, and you can also get Google maps and SAT for free from ... I guess I have the link at work. The latter maps are what I am using, you can custom center them and get a wide range of resolution, I make mine 1:25,000, that's twice as big as anything you can buy."


When you have time, can you pass along those links? Thanks.
 
08/29/2011 05:06PM  
Here is another site. You can measure distance and heading and make the notes print on the maps.
Ontario Make-A-Map
 
08/29/2011 05:22PM  
For example, entering at the south end of Little Caribou you will be at 89*5' W, 50*20'N. If you trave 1091m on heading 330* then you will find your turn back to the NW. Travel 342m at heqading 60.4 and then turn left to travel up the lake. Travel 3.8km on heading 22.6* until you hit the point that juts out from the left. This puts you about half way up the lake.
More specifically:

Position 89° 5' W 50° 20' N
Distance 1,091.7 m
True Course 328.6°

Position 89° 5' W 50° 21' N
Distance 342.8 m
True Course 60.4°

Position 89° 4' W 50° 22' N
Distance 3.8 km
True Course 22.6°


And so on...you can print the map with those vectors.
 
paddlefamily
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08/30/2011 08:13AM  
jcavenaugh-

Very helpful. The sort of thing I was looking for. Seems clear/easy to use. Thanks!
 
08/30/2011 12:26PM  
Call Burt & Brenda before you go to make sure your route is still OK. We skirted a newer, small but growing fire on our way into Smoothrock. If there is a real problem, you can change the route ahaed of time.
 
ZaraSp00k
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08/30/2011 08:13PM  
quote paddlefamily: "
quote ZaraSp00k: "you are aware that most of the route you are going on, there are maps/trip reports that are better than any map you can buy, right?



In addition, you can get Canada topo maps for free online from the government server, that's where every Canada map originates, and you can also get Google maps and SAT for free from ... I guess I have the link at work. The latter maps are what I am using, you can custom center them and get a wide range of resolution, I make mine 1:25,000, that's twice as big as anything you can buy."



When you have time, can you pass along those links? Thanks."


mytopo

I should point out I have Delorme Topo, and had I know about this before, I wouldn't have bought it.
 
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