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movington
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06/30/2016 07:45AM   (Thread Older Than 3 Years)
I'm taking my first solo trip in September. I'll be going in on the 7th and coming out on the 12th. This is what I planning for food. All dehydrated breakfast and dinners from hawk vittles http://hawkvittles.com/
For lunch just tortilla shells and tuna packets. I'll also make 2-3 cups of instant coffee each day. I'll have 5 breakfast and 5 dinners. I'm not sure how much water I'll have to boil for each meal, but am assuming 1-2 cups. I'll boil 2-3 cups of water each day for my coffee.
I am using this for a stove. Etekcity Ultralight Portable Outdoor Backpacking Camping Stoves with Piezo Ignition.
I am using a 230 gram Jetboil Jetpower Isobutane/Propane fuel mix.
According to the Jetboil website, a 100 gram container will boil 10-12 liters of water. So the 230 gram should do at least twice that. I figure I will boil 7-10 liters total. I understand that wind will be a factor and will bring some heavy duty aluminum foil to set up as a wind shield.
I figure this one container of fuel should be enough, but I do not want to be wrong.
Here is my setup.
Should I bring a 2nd container of fuel just in case?
 
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Alan Gage
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06/30/2016 08:48AM  
If you only take one canister and you're wrong it's not a big deal; just build a fire.

Alan
 
movington
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06/30/2016 09:00AM  
Yeah that's true. I'll just bring one canister. Thanks
 
06/30/2016 10:40AM  
Has anyone had valves fail on these canisters? I always bring back up fuel and ignition source just in case but I only bring stoves during fire bans. If you do need to use a fire your cookware will be blackened.
 
06/30/2016 10:53AM  
I have some experience with this. I use a JetBoil Sol. The JetBoil fuel information from their website may assume you are using a JetBoil stove, which is probably more efficient. Nonetheless, you should have plenty of fuel. I typically eat a cold breakfast, a hot dinner, and 2-3 coffees per day. I often eat Hawk Vittles among a couple of others and they generally require 8-12 ounces of water. It takes ~1 1/2 minutes (90 sec.) to boil the water. I heat coffee water for 1 minute. I monitor the stove and turn it off as soon as the water boils (so I don't waste fuel), pour it into the meal bag and put that in a cozy to rehydrate. Last fall, I made 19 coffees and 9 dinners with a small (100g) canister. I would suggest that you weigh the full canister, test boil an appropriate amount of water and time it. Weight the canister when you return and subtract the difference from the net weight of fuel to determine how much is left. I usually light the canister I'm taking before leaving to test the valve seal.

let us know how it works out.
 
movington
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06/30/2016 11:22AM  
Ok. Thanks
 
06/30/2016 08:25PM  
Yea you will be good. I like a backup plan, so an extra iso fuel container (small one) comes along. Alternatives could be some esbit fuel tabs or just a good ole fire.
 
OldGreyGoose
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07/04/2016 06:44PM  
I use that size fuel container but a different brand and I can go at least 8 days one one, with mostly hot breakfasts and all hot suppers. Should be no problem. (I weigh my partially used containers at home and write the weight and date on with a marker. So I may take a second much used container along as a backup, being a worry-wart.) --Goose
 
mjmkjun
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07/05/2016 08:51PM  
I think you'll be fine. That is, allowing for the windshield that will help considerably on any windy days.
I always pack too much fuel. This year I'm not going to give in to that impulse. Like others stated, old timey grate fire will do in a pinch. Unless... an all day downpour. That's when the PB & honey on a tortilla wrap shines. Cold food backups.

Re: Etekcity Ultralight Portable Outdoor Backpacking Camping Stove with Piezo Ignition. Pack a Bic in the event the Piezo Ignition fails. Been known to happen.
 
07/05/2016 10:15PM  
Just do not surround the burner with a windscreen! Keep it open at least a third to keep the canister from overheating and becoming a bomb. Screen I like to use.

butthead
 
07/05/2016 10:21PM  
quote AmarilloJim: "Has anyone had valves fail on these canisters? I always bring back up fuel and ignition source just in case but I only bring stoves during fire bans. If you do need to use a fire your cookware will be blackened."

Yes but only once. Then again I do not use canister as much as liquid fuel.

butthead
 
jfinn
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07/06/2016 06:59AM  
All Good points.

Plus
-consider your pot. TI will transfer heat faster on the stove.

-You don't need to boil the water for everything-real hot works

-koozies help preserve heat once transferred off the stove


John
 
movington
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07/06/2016 07:37AM  
Thanks again for all the advice.
 
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