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08/15/2017 01:46PM
We used a 13 gallon force flex with drawstring and impregnated febreeze. I had a spare just in case. Was more than big enough for trash of 4 people.
IMHO USFS should give out bags like this directly or through outfitters that are sponsored and carry the ad(s) of the sponsoring business(es) stamped on the side.
IMHO USFS should give out bags like this directly or through outfitters that are sponsored and carry the ad(s) of the sponsoring business(es) stamped on the side.
"Did you bring the coffee?" "No. I thought you were."
08/15/2017 02:14PM
Not sure you can make the process of putting trash in a bag and carrying it out any simpler than it already is. Just bring the appropriate sized bag for the trash you expect to make.
The real trick is minimizing the amount of garbage you are generating on your trip.
The real trick is minimizing the amount of garbage you are generating on your trip.
08/15/2017 02:25PM
quote nofish: "Not sure you can make the process of putting trash in a bag and carrying it out any simpler than it already is. Just bring the appropriate sized bag for the trash you expect to make.
The real trick is minimizing the amount of garbage you are generating on your trip. "
+1 A quart-size ziplocks works great for me - it closes up tight and is all I need unless it's a long trip, then I might need another one or a 1-gallon. Like Nofish, I don't generate much trash. I just put it in the ziplock, squeeze the air out, zip it closed - I can't think of anything simpler.
08/15/2017 03:43PM
I plan my food with the trash in mind. I take as little packaging as possible. I make sure that the packaging can fold flat. I have a Sea to Summit trash bag. It's a spendy trash bag but serves its' purpose well. It never goes in my pack.
Sea to Summit Trash Bag
Sea to Summit Trash Bag
08/15/2017 04:49PM
quote boonie: "quote nofish: "Not sure you can make the process of putting trash in a bag and carrying it out any simpler than it already is. Just bring the appropriate sized bag for the trash you expect to make.
The real trick is minimizing the amount of garbage you are generating on your trip. "
+1 A quart-size ziplocks works great for me - it closes up tight and is all I need unless it's a long trip, then I might need another one or a 1-gallon. Like Nofish, I don't generate much trash. I just put it in the ziplock, squeeze the air out, zip it closed - I can't think of anything simpler. "
+1 for me. When I have one of the ducklings along I will use a gallon size ziplock. It goes in the bearvault w/ the food.
Ride EZ
08/15/2017 05:40PM
I use ziplock freezer bags galore then double ack them in a gallon sized bag for trash. My problem is that I keep them in my food barrel and I've had them start to smell in the past. Just wondering if others had a better idea.
08/15/2017 07:06PM
quote : "I use ziplock freezer bags galore then double ack them in a gallon sized bag for trash. My problem is that I keep them in my food barrel and I've had them start to smell in the past. Just wondering if others had a better idea."
I avoid leftovers and the baggies and wrappers have very little residue to create odor. You could use an OPSack if needed to help.
08/15/2017 07:21PM
Never any leftovers. Only food residue from meals like Mountain House bags and coffee filters/coffee. Again always double bagged. I like the Op Sack idea to better contain everything. It's not that bad, but come day six and when I'm digging in the barrel for my last meal, I sometimes lose my appetite.
08/15/2017 07:23PM
Hello! We remove all packaging from our food and put it in a ziplock or vacuum seal when we go in. If we need the recipe we cut that part off and stick it in the bag of food. We generate very little garbage. We have zero left over cooked food because we eat everything we prepare for the meal and plan as such. We use one of the zip lock bags for garbage and this last time even put that bag into a sea to summit.
Hope this helps.
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Hope this helps.
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08/15/2017 10:36PM
quote charliez317: "Does anyone have a better way of managing the trash that you generate during a trip than putting it in a ziplock bag and carrying it back out? "
No. That's exactly what I do. Generally I have about 1quart ziplock bag per person per week.
Bannock
08/16/2017 07:19AM
Good question with good answers. My first trips we just threw stuff together and away we went. Over the years I've put more thought in everything. I'd spend my winters making up meals and how I package them. Just when I'm getting it down my body isn't letting g me go. Haha. I do a lot less vacuum sealing because for whatever reason I created a lot more garbage. There is a lot of different size ziplocks, and like Frenchy19 I may or may not reuse them. If you have smelly garbage you may want to rethink what you bring. Things like coffee filters can be dried out, as that is one thing that can be a problem.
Nctry
08/16/2017 07:51AM
quote boonie: "quote : "I use ziplock freezer bags galore then double ack them in a gallon sized bag for trash. My problem is that I keep them in my food barrel and I've had them start to smell in the past. Just wondering if others had a better idea."
I avoid leftovers and the baggies and wrappers have very little residue to create odor. You could use an OPSack if needed to help. "
+1 on the odor proof OpSack.
Combined with minimization of trash in the first place, and using food that isn't messy and smelly to begin with you wind up with a flat, odor free trash bag that is light and packs easily.
Since I am naturally paranoid (about keeping a clean camp) I even put the OpSack holding the trash inside another larger one to completely capture odors and protect against cuts and breaks in the bag. Since the trash isn't very obnoxious I just empty and wash them out when I get home. Have been using the same bags for about 5 years.
How's that for an obsessive/compulsive disorder for trash management?!
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08/16/2017 08:35AM
I put what little non-paper waste we produce inside a recently-emptied dehydrated entree bag. Like Jaywalker, I'm a goof about folding and compressing my trash (do the same thing at home). Also, I never re-hydrate meals in their bags, so nothing wet/moist is going in the bag and in the pack, so odor's a non-issue. I typically trip with just two of us and end up with a single 2-person entree bag's worth of trash over the course of a week.
“I would rather sit on a pumpkin, and have it all to myself, than be crowded on a velvet cushion.” - Henry David Thoreau
08/16/2017 01:28PM
For the minimal trash we have I use ziplock baggies or hefty depending on the length of the trip. bring an extra small dry bag and attempt to get everything in the ziplock bag and then compress it in the dry bag. Keeps things clean, separate and compact.
08/17/2017 08:27AM
I switched to these bags . Leak less odor than ziplocks, cheaper/bigger than opsak. I use them for dog food and trash. My dogs cannot smell their food when the bag's closed and the trash stinks when you open the bag, so they seem to work.
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08/17/2017 10:36AM
I hope you put your febreeze scented bag into something else to contain the odor, Emptynest. I get that food residue starts to smell after a few days but a different (stronger, IMO) scent to cover up another seems to not be a good bear protocol.
That being said, I could totally get on board with a kitchen garbage bag on trips... Lots of volume, nice big opening.
To this point Ziplocs have been perfectly adequate. Like others, I minimize packaging so there are always extra baggies around. Paper gets used as fire starters whenever wet. I also try to minimize food waste if possible.
That being said, I could totally get on board with a kitchen garbage bag on trips... Lots of volume, nice big opening.
To this point Ziplocs have been perfectly adequate. Like others, I minimize packaging so there are always extra baggies around. Paper gets used as fire starters whenever wet. I also try to minimize food waste if possible.
When a man is part of his canoe, he is part of all that canoes have ever known. - Sigurd F. Olson, "The Singing Wilderness"
08/17/2017 10:53AM
Milo, the world's most mellow canoe dog, used to take care of any organic waste.
Since his passing, we slice open freeze dried envelopes and place them near the fire. The moist food waste is "cremated" into ash. Same with the foil on which fish have been broiled. No stink, less bulk.
Since his passing, we slice open freeze dried envelopes and place them near the fire. The moist food waste is "cremated" into ash. Same with the foil on which fish have been broiled. No stink, less bulk.
OtherBob - lots of Bobs on this board
08/17/2017 11:06AM
quote OtherBob: "...is "cremated" into ash. Same with the foil on which fish have been broiled. "
Bet you're overestimating your fire's effectiveness on this point.
“I would rather sit on a pumpkin, and have it all to myself, than be crowded on a velvet cushion.” - Henry David Thoreau
08/17/2017 01:30PM
quote barracuda: "I switched to these bags . Leak less odor than ziplocks, cheaper/bigger than opsak. I use them for dog food and trash. My dogs cannot smell their food when the bag's closed and the trash stinks when you open the bag, so they seem to work. "
Interesting. Is that a clamp closure on them?
08/18/2017 08:24PM
4keys is right. Only addition is that we always use really hot water to rinse the MRE type plastic bags. We leave all plastic trash in a large plastic bag at far side of camp to carry out later. Never a critter problem.
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08/19/2017 10:08AM
quote charliez317: "Never any leftovers. Only food residue from meals like Mountain House bags and coffee filters/coffee. Again always double bagged. I like the Op Sack idea to better contain everything. It's not that bad, but come day six and when I'm digging in the barrel for my last meal, I sometimes lose my appetite."
The difference that I see with your garbage compared to mine is the coffee filters/coffee. That's probably what's making it smell bad. I use instant coffee on bwca trips so I don't have the mess/stink of coffee grounds/wet filters.
Ride EZ
08/23/2017 02:12PM
We like to eat Lays Stacks for lunch and snacks. Think pringles, but in a plastic canister.
We will generally polish off most of one on the drive up from MSP and finish the rest at lunch the first day, then use the can to hold messy trash until we camp at night to take permanent care of it.
Then it goes in a gallon Ziploc freezer bag, then into the bear bag, which is more of a trash bag than a food storage bag as we typically only eat freeze dried stuff after the first day.
We carry the standard issue trash bag that you get when watching the requisite video, but we don't use it until the last day to throw everything into a trash barrel.
We will generally polish off most of one on the drive up from MSP and finish the rest at lunch the first day, then use the can to hold messy trash until we camp at night to take permanent care of it.
Then it goes in a gallon Ziploc freezer bag, then into the bear bag, which is more of a trash bag than a food storage bag as we typically only eat freeze dried stuff after the first day.
We carry the standard issue trash bag that you get when watching the requisite video, but we don't use it until the last day to throw everything into a trash barrel.
08/23/2017 09:20PM
quote ducks: "quote boonie: "quote nofish: "Not sure you can make the process of putting trash in a bag and carrying it out any simpler than it already is. Just bring the appropriate sized bag for the trash you expect to make.
The real trick is minimizing the amount of garbage you are generating on your trip. "
+1 A quart-size ziplocks works great for me - it closes up tight and is all I need unless it's a long trip, then I might need another one or a 1-gallon. Like Nofish, I don't generate much trash. I just put it in the ziplock, squeeze the air out, zip it closed - I can't think of anything simpler. "
+1 for me. When I have one of the ducklings along I will use a gallon size ziplock. It goes in the bearvault w/ the food."
+1
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