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Boppasteveg
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06/01/2021 07:46AM  
Another drowning in the BWCAW where the victim was not wearing a PFD. Please...wear one, and INSIST that kids do too.
 
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Canoearoo
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06/01/2021 08:24AM  
This is so sad. Praying for the family
 
06/01/2021 08:49AM  
 
BWPaddler
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06/01/2021 09:15AM  
Sad!!
 
thegildedgopher
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06/01/2021 09:30AM  
Horrible to hear this.

On a side note -- The headline next to this photo of smiling people is pretty gross. Great example of why we should leave journalism to humans.

 
06/01/2021 10:00AM  
Such a bummer. Thinking of all his friends and family.
 
BearBurrito
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06/01/2021 10:31AM  
Very sad. I will be praying for his family.
 
yogi59weedr
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06/01/2021 10:33AM  
Possibly a heart attack.
 
06/01/2021 10:40AM  
Sad deal. Good reminder to always advocate wearing a pfd to everyone in your group. Especially those who are new to the bwca.
 
06/01/2021 10:46AM  
thegildedgopher: "Horrible to hear this.


On a side note -- The headline next to this photo of smiling people is pretty gross. Great example of why we should leave journalism to humans.


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Yeah, I noticed that too. Mess up.
 
06/01/2021 11:22AM  
Soledad: "thegildedgopher: "Horrible to hear this.



On a side note -- The headline next to this photo of smiling people is pretty gross. Great example of why we should leave journalism to humans.



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Yeah, I noticed that too. Mess up."

Me too. Sad news.
 
06/01/2021 12:11PM  
I think the man was in a boat and not a canoe. While I wear my pfd in my canoe, I honesty would probably not wear it if I was in a boat.
 
Northwoodsman
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06/01/2021 06:09PM  
egknuti: "I think the man was in a boat and not a canoe. While I wear my pfd in my canoe, I honesty would probably not wear it if I was in a boat."

This didn't/doesn't change your mind?
 
06/01/2021 07:54PM  
He fell overboard in a boat with friends pulling him back in, apparently too late.

Is that about ten for the year?
 
VoyageurNorth
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06/01/2021 10:40PM  
thegildedgopher: "Horrible to hear this.


On a side note -- The headline next to this photo of smiling people is pretty gross. Great example of why we should leave journalism to humans.


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I noticed that too! Was badly placed.
 
mjmkjun
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06/02/2021 04:08AM  
Pinetree: "He fell overboard in a boat with friends pulling him back in-apperently to late.


Is that about 10 for the year?"

Oh, no. That's horrific timing.
 
06/02/2021 07:54AM  
Northwoodsman: "egknuti: "I think the man was in a boat and not a canoe. While I wear my pfd in my canoe, I honesty would probably not wear it if I was in a boat."
This didn't/doesn't change your mind? "

When I'm in a boat, I usually don't wear one, but this might change my mind.
 
thegildedgopher
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06/02/2021 08:25AM  
egknuti: "Northwoodsman: "egknuti: "I think the man was in a boat and not a canoe. While I wear my pfd in my canoe, I honesty would probably not wear it if I was in a boat."
This didn't/doesn't change your mind? "

When I'm in a boat, I usually don't wear one, but this might change my mind."

Nobody gets in my boat without a PFD on. I'd rather deal with a grumpy person in a PFD than with a grieving family. The auto-inflatables are ideal for that application, don't even realize you're wearing them.
 
06/02/2021 09:34AM  
I hate how these turn into PFD discussions instead of just focusing on the family. Sounds like something else was the initial cause and I feel bad for the family.
 
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06/02/2021 10:24AM  
x2jmorris: "I hate how these turn into PFD discussions instead of just focusing on the family. Sounds like something else was the initial cause and I feel bad for the family. "

If I had a family member die, even if it was a heart attack or something that made the life jacket not the main culprit, I'd rather have a bunch of internet strangers advocate PFDs then focus on my family. Random group chat / forum on the internet isn't going to do anything for the family, or I should say very, very little, while a reminder that PFDs should be worn may actually help the next person.
 
06/02/2021 10:52AM  
THEGrandRapids: "x2jmorris: "I hate how these turn into PFD discussions instead of just focusing on the family. Sounds like something else was the initial cause and I feel bad for the family. "


If I had a family member die, even if it was a heart attack or something that made the life jacket not the main culprit, I'd rather have a bunch of internet strangers advocate PFDs then focus on my family. Random group chat / forum on the internet isn't going to do anything for the family, or I should say very, very little, while a reminder that PFDs should be worn may actually help the next person. "


Idk I get your point. However, I would rather my memory or a family member memory not be made about something I may or may not have believed it. Sadly there are a lot every year though.
 
thegildedgopher
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06/02/2021 11:45AM  
x2jmorris: "I hate how these turn into PFD discussions instead of just focusing on the family. Sounds like something else was the initial cause and I feel bad for the family. "

We all feel bad for the family.

There’s feeling bad and then there’s always wearing a PFD. One of those two has the potential to save a future life.
 
doorbluff84
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06/02/2021 02:09PM  
These types of posts always remind me of reading the ACA Rock Climbing Accident reports. Always learn from others unfortunate circumstances. I switched to always wearing a PFD no matter what, especially now I have two young boys. Easy life insurance policy to mitigate some objective hazards.
 
justpaddlin
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06/02/2021 04:52PM  
 
mschi772
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06/02/2021 05:09PM  
x2jmorris: "I hate how these turn into PFD discussions instead of just focusing on the family. Sounds like something else was the initial cause and I feel bad for the family. "

I doubt that anyone who has ever lost someone in this manner would be that upset at people encouraging others to wear their PFD so that others don't have to go through the same thing.

And so what if there was something else that preceded the drowning? Whatever it was, he ended-up in the water without a PFD and drowned. "Something else" can happen to any of us to send us into the water as well.
 
06/02/2021 05:19PM  
mschi772: "x2jmorris: "I hate how these turn into PFD discussions instead of just focusing on the family. Sounds like something else was the initial cause and I feel bad for the family. "


I doubt that anyone who has ever lost someone in this manner would be that upset at people encouraging others to wear their PFD so that others don't have to go through the same thing.


And so what if there was something else that preceded the drowning? Whatever it was, he ended-up in the water without a PFD and drowned. "Something else" can happen to any of us to send us into the water as well."


To me its not that they would be upset. It's the idea of using their death as an agenda if you will. Obviously I'm in the minority on this but it just bothers me is all :/
 
06/02/2021 08:31PM  
Dealing with death within a family is always tough.

But throughout history sometimes we learn from the consequences and mishaps of others. I think that is what many here are trying to do. Stop it from happening again if possible.
 
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