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mike2019
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08/20/2021 09:14AM  
New to BWCA fishing, so far kind of got the hang of the slip bobber. Now, progressing to trolling with Husky Jerk (plus their deeper diving cousins). How should I connect this to the line? Direct tie? Swivel snap? Just a snap?

I also use Little Cleos, same question. I have used a Mepps #3, same questions.

Thanks.
 
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08/20/2021 10:57AM  
I don’t like snap swivels as I think they effect the action of the lure. But with pike I use a wire leader to keep from losing $8 to $16 lures.
You will want a swivel with spoons and spinners to keep from getting line twist.
You don’t need one with rapala type lures.

 
casualbriday
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08/20/2021 11:00AM  
Huskys you can tie direct to the ring or use a snap. I'd probably tie direct using mono and use a snap with braid. Original floating rapalas and the like (stickbaits with no split ring attached) usually work best with a duo lock style snap or nonslip loop knot. Spoons I'm less well versed on but with the big ones I usually use a steel leader with a duo lock at the end attached to my line via swivel because of the possibility of sticking a northern.
 
lundojam
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08/20/2021 08:14PM  
I tie directly to split ring on a husky and use a snap swivel with a spoon.
 
Savage Voyageur
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08/20/2021 09:44PM  
With your Little Cleos or any spoon, you want to use a swivel and clip.

With most stick baits like a Rapala I use some type of loop knot, so it doesn’t impede the lure action. Don’t tie directly to the lure eye or ring. Learn how to tie a loop.

With any Mepps spinners you will need a swivel and snap.

If you think you are in Pike water you want to get a titanium leader that comes with a swivel and snap.

Basically, if the lure you are using spins, wobbles, or has any action you probably need a swivel and snap.

As you advance you might learn to tie from Braided line to a swivel, then to fluorocarbon or titanium then make a loop to your lure. Use this when you have a spinning lure, want a good hook set, invisible line at your lure for clear water. For Pike you need a heavy fluorocarbon or titanium leader. Make sure the leader is long enough, because they roll, and the gill plate will cut your line.
 
Mocha
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08/21/2021 08:28AM  
I now know what I've been doing wrong! I'd just attach my lure right to the snap swivel. Duh. No wonder I never caught much except weeds.
 
ericinely
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08/21/2021 11:59AM  
I stopped using wire leaders and swivels a while ago. Now I use a heavy duty flourocarbon leader (14-30#, depending on what and how I am targeting) and use a VMC crankbait snap (doesn't affect the action). If you are not good at tying line-to-line knots, get a simple barrel swivel to connect the two.
 
08/21/2021 03:32PM  
Mocha: "I now know what I've been doing wrong! I'd just attach my lure right to the snap swivel. Duh. No wonder I never caught much except weeds."

What's wrong with that??
 
Basspro69
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08/22/2021 01:10AM  
Savage Voyageur: "With your Little Cleos or any spoon, you want to use a swivel and clip.


With most stick baits like a Rapala I use some type of loop knot, so it doesn’t impede the lure action. Don’t tie directly to the lure eye or ring. Learn how to tie a loop.


With any Mepps spinners you will need a swivel and snap.


If you think you are in Pike water you want to get a titanium leader that comes with a swivel and snap.


Basically, if the lure you are using spins, wobbles, or has any action you probably need a swivel and snap.


As you advance you might learn to tie from Braided line to a swivel, then to fluorocarbon or titanium then make a loop to your lure. Use this when you have a spinning lure, want a good hook set, invisible line at your lure for clear water. For Pike you need a heavy fluorocarbon or titanium leader. Make sure the leader is long enough, because they roll, and the gill plate will cut your line. "
This !
 
shock
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08/22/2021 04:43AM  
with cleos or spoons , i'm usually targeting pike or lakers , always use a steel/titanium leader , neither fish are leader shy , but if my spoons do not have a split ring on them i will add one , as i believe it increases the action on spoons/cleos. with some rapalas i use a split ring but not all , mainly the husky jerks and the CD9
 
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