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Graybeard
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11/25/2022 04:45PM  
What's in your PFD pockets? What do you carry in a pocket as opposed to a bag or pack? Why?
 
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NikonF5user
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11/25/2022 06:22PM  
Basically everything in/on my PFD are emergency items I might need if I get separated from the canoe and pack. This includes a medical Kit .3 in waterproof package, emergency Mylar blanket, signaling mirror, length of paracord, waterproof matches / mini fire kit, mini flashlight, 1 fancy fruit roll-up snack from REI, and keys on the Stohlquist Drifter's key clip (if I have room anyway, otherwise they are attached to the clip on my backpack, but I figure if the pack gets away, the PFD will not, and I will want those keys!). Whistle attached to the shoulder strap, and dive knife attached to the front lashing clip (the back clip on this PFD I leave empty unless I am out at night on waters with power boats in which case I put a bike lamp on my back and wear a headlamp while paddling)...
 
CabinAfter
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11/25/2022 10:48PM  
Graybeard- in the ‘search’ area type in ‘ditch kit’
 
11/26/2022 06:04AM  
NikonF5user: "...and I will want those keys!)..."


What keys do you take on a canoe trip? Or why do you take keys?
 
11/28/2022 04:04PM  
bobbernumber3: "
NikonF5user: "...and I will want those keys!)..."

What keys do you take on a canoe trip? Or why do you take keys?"

Car keys come to mind.
 
11/29/2022 01:09AM  
In my cargo pockets of my pants I carry:
An SOL space blanket,
Light cordage so I could make the space blanket into a shelter,
A Swiss Army knife,
A Bic lighter and fire steel, and
Some birch bark.
 
Banksiana
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11/29/2022 09:07AM  
I carry a lighter. Djeep brand if I can find it.
Good enough.
 
11/29/2022 10:36AM  
There’s an old saying about “ditch kits” - if it’s not on you, you don’t have it. I carry those items on me. I also carry things I use during the day in my pockets.
 
ockycamper
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11/29/2022 12:18PM  
NikonF5user: "Basically everything in/on my PFD are emergency items I might need if I get separated from the canoe and pack. This includes a medical Kit .3 in waterproof package, emergency Mylar blanket, signaling mirror, length of paracord, waterproof matches / mini fire kit, mini flashlight, 1 fancy fruit roll-up snack from REI, and keys on the Stohlquist Drifter's key clip (if I have room anyway, otherwise they are attached to the clip on my backpack, but I figure if the pack gets away, the PFD will not, and I will want those keys!). Whistle attached to the shoulder strap, and dive knife attached to the front lashing clip (the back clip on this PFD I leave empty unless I am out at night on waters with power boats in which case I put a bike lamp on my back and wear a headlamp while paddling)..."


The one year I carried my keys with me while tripping I lost them. Fortunately someone found them and turned them in to the outfitter

I learned my lesson: NEVER carry keys with you in a canoe. Leave them with the outfitter, or in the car console or glove box (assuming you have keyless entry)
 
ockycamper
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11/29/2022 04:54PM  
boonie: "There’s an old saying about “ditch kits” - if it’s not on you, you don’t have it. I carry those items on me. I also carry things I use during the day in my pockets. "


I also live by this qoute. I have an NRS Fisherman with a pack attached to the back. I carry:

in pack:
first aid kit and tourniquet
life straw
emergency blanket
emergency poncho
storm proof matches and fire starters


in the pockets:
compass
gps
whistle
signal mirror
PLB


Attached to the PFD:

Gerber River knife
whistle
 
DanCooke
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11/29/2022 05:51PM  
Mosquito headnet!
 
straighthairedcurly
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11/29/2022 09:19PM  
In my PFD pocket: mylar emergency blanket, lighter, waterproof matches, plus SPOT is clipped to PFD and whistle is around my neck
Also, I always wear a small waist pack which holds: signal mirror, permit, list of emergency numbers, car key, more matches, BeFree 1L water bottle/filter, and compass.
 
NikonF5user
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11/30/2022 11:56AM  
bobbernumber3: "
NikonF5user: "...and I will want those keys!)..."



What keys do you take on a canoe trip? Or why do you take keys?"


The keys to get back into my car when done!
 
11/30/2022 12:29PM  
Graybeard: "What's in your PFD pockets? What do you carry in a pocket as opposed to a bag or pack? Why?"


I'll put my spin on this...I would also group everything else on my person into the equation. I have plenty of stuff in my pants pockets as well.

Either way, concur with what others have said: it's all about what is directly on your person. If you go in, there is zero guarantee you have anything from the boat in your reach anytime soon.

I have redundancy on the ability to start a fire, I have a compass, whistle, bug headnet, knife, bandana, moneyclip (CC/ID/Ins card/$), sunglasses, readers, phone (tethered with elastic cord to PFD), SPOT, couple of snack bars, fishing license, forceps and a few fishing lures. And in cold water times, a space blanket.

I should probably beef up the first aid component a bit. Happy with the main kit, but some items should make their way into my vest.
 
11/30/2022 12:48PM  
I have a Ninja so only one front pocket. Compass and phone for picture taking in the pocket. I'm curious about how many people have been completely separated from their canoe and pack in the BW? It seems very hard to do.
 
NikonF5user
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11/30/2022 12:51PM  
ockycamper: The one year I carried my keys with me while tripping I lost them. Fortunately someone found them and turned them in to the outfitter

I learned my lesson: NEVER carry keys with you in a canoe. Leave them with the outfitter, or in the car console or glove box (assuming you have keyless entry)"


I have thought about this, but I have never thought about where to leave keys if not using anything from an outfitter. Sadly I do not have keyless entry, but I suppose a hidden magnetic key box on a car is not a bad idea...
 
ockycamper
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11/30/2022 02:18PM  
What got my attention about the keys is the outfitter's comments. Since I have a keys that have a chip in them that are programmed to the car, he said if I had lost them I would have to have the car towed to Duluth to a dealer to have a new key programmed to the car (we were in Gunflint). The tow and the new key would have been 3 times the cost of the trip
 
scottiebaldwin
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11/30/2022 07:52PM  
NikonF5user: "
ockycamper: The one year I carried my keys with me while tripping I lost them. Fortunately someone found them and turned them in to the outfitter


I learned my lesson: NEVER carry keys with you in a canoe. Leave them with the outfitter, or in the car console or glove box (assuming you have keyless entry)"



I have thought about this, but I have never thought about where to leave keys if not using anything from an outfitter. Sadly I do not have keyless entry, but I suppose a hidden magnetic key box on a car is not a bad idea..."


Okay, this is the way... Put your car key fob in one of these Jumbo magnetic key holders and mount it under your car. Make sure not to mount it near the driver's door as it will be close enough to let your car become unlocked by proximity. Magnetically mount it instead on the muffler. Then tell the outfitter where it is mounted. That way they are not responsible for your keys and yet they can move your vehicle if necessary. Also, you may not always be parking at an outfitter but rather an entry point. The Jumbo key hider fits every key and is THE game changer!

Available on Amazon for under $5.38

 
ockycamper
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11/30/2022 07:59PM  
scottiebaldwin: "
NikonF5user: "
ockycamper: The one year I carried my keys with me while tripping I lost them. Fortunately someone found them and turned them in to the outfitter



I learned my lesson: NEVER carry keys with you in a canoe. Leave them with the outfitter, or in the car console or glove box (assuming you have keyless entry)"




I have thought about this, but I have never thought about where to leave keys if not using anything from an outfitter. Sadly I do not have keyless entry, but I suppose a hidden magnetic key box on a car is not a bad idea..."



Okay, this is the way... Put your car key fob in one of these Jumbo magnetic key holders and mount it under your car. Make sure not to mount it near the driver's door as it will be close enough to let your car become unlocked by proximity. Magnetically mount it instead on the muffler. Then tell the outfitter where it is mounted. That way they are not responsible for your keys and yet they can move your vehicle if necessary. Also, you may not always be parking at an outfitter but rather an entry point. The Jumbo key hider fits every key and is THE game changer!


Available on Amazon for under $5.38


"


Why on earth would you do this if using an outfitter. Our outfitter gathers up our groups keys and locks them in the safe until we come back.
 
RunningFox
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11/30/2022 10:08PM  
scottiebaldwin: "
NikonF5user: "
ockycamper: The one year I carried my keys with me while tripping I lost them. Fortunately someone found them and turned them in to the outfitter



I learned my lesson: NEVER carry keys with you in a canoe. Leave them with the outfitter, or in the car console or glove box (assuming you have keyless entry)"




I have thought about this, but I have never thought about where to leave keys if not using anything from an outfitter. Sadly I do not have keyless entry, but I suppose a hidden magnetic key box on a car is not a bad idea..."



Okay, this is the way... Put your car key fob in one of these Jumbo magnetic key holders and mount it under your car. Make sure not to mount it near the driver's door as it will be close enough to let your car become unlocked by

proximity. Magnetically mount it instead on the muffler. Then tell the outfitter where it is mounted. That way they are not responsible for your keys and yet they can move your vehicle if necessary. Also, you may not always be parking at an outfitter but rather an entry point. The Jumbo key hider fits every key and is THE game changer!


Available on Amazon for under $5.38


"


Best advice yet. + 1
 
coffeetalk
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12/01/2022 03:05PM  
I mostly solo with dog. In addition to both silent and very-loud whistles around my neck, I wear my PFD always, so I always have:

Quick deploy dog leash rigged for hands-free use
Phone on lanyard
Tripping documents in freezer bag
Dog poop bags
Sunglasses and sometimes sunscreen
Monocular
Pill tube with tums, ibuprofen
Inreach
Compass

If water is warm I don't bother but in shoulder seasons I will have a ditch kit consisting of:
Spark-wheel thingy and firestarter
Mylar blanket
Contractor bag (makeshift rain gear or shelter, serves also as spare for pack)

All of this just barely fits into a fishing vest with lots of pockets. I don't fish on solo trips.

In pants pockets:
Head net
Bandana
Bug spray
Map if not clipped to thwart
 
EddyTurn
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12/02/2022 06:26PM  
Compass and knife in my PFD. Map attached to a thwart. Ditch kit only in shoulder season. In warm weather if I can't reach my pack then most probably I won't be able to use it. Of course if I was running serious whitewater my attitude would be different.
 
Erk
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02/05/2023 07:37AM  
Compass/mirror
Phone
Lighter/matches
Whistle, tethered to shoulder strap
Glow sticks
Couple of snack bars
Sunglasses
Small binoculars
Small light attached on the rear
Quickclot
Bug head net
Small waterproof flashlight
Sunscreen/dermatone type of stick

Sometimes my keys are on me, sometimes they’re hidden at the vehicle.

In my pockets, a knife. Anything else makes me feel like I’m bonking around
 
TechnoScout
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02/06/2023 07:59PM  


Why on earth would you do this if using an outfitter. Our outfitter gathers up our groups keys and locks them in the safe until we come back."


What does it cost to have the outfitter drive out to your entry point and collect your keys? I have never asked.
 
Kermit
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02/07/2023 08:50AM  
TechnoScout: "



Why on earth would you do this if using an outfitter. Our outfitter gathers up our groups keys and locks them in the safe until we come back."



What does it cost to have the outfitter drive out to your entry point and collect your keys? I have never asked."


I believe they're referring to outfitters who are at the entry points, like Williams & Hall on Moose, or Kawishiwi Lodge & Outfitters on Lake One, rather than having someone from say Piragis Northwoods Co. coming out to get your keys for safe keeping.
 
ockycamper
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02/07/2023 09:03AM  
TechnoScout: "



Why on earth would you do this if using an outfitter. Our outfitter gathers up our groups keys and locks them in the safe until we come back."



What does it cost to have the outfitter drive out to your entry point and collect your keys? I have never asked."


We always used outfitters that are directly on the water we are paddling on. We rent the canoes, and buy showers. Holding the keys does not cost anything extra.

Only one time we used an outfitter that was not on the water. By the time we loaded everyone up, the canoes, and gear, then got to the entry point it was 10 AM. Never again. After that we use only oufitters that are directly on the water we paddle with no need of transport to an entry point. We are on the water by 7:30 AM or earlier that way.
 
02/07/2023 10:01AM  
Compass
Whistle
Bug headnet
Paddling gloves if I'm not wearing them at the moment
Knife
 
02/07/2023 02:02PM  
I keep my keys, wallet, and phone in a waterproof box tied to the canoe.

Somewhere on my person (pfd, pockets, belt pack) I keep:
Matches
Lighter
Bug spray
Knife
Leatherman
Pipe and tobacco (I never smoke except on canoe trips. It's a voyageur thing.)
Bandanna
Compass
Small but powerful flashlight mainly just so I always know where it is.
+ I always wear a hat.
 
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