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01/09/2011 09:54PM
I need some help locating gunnel stock.
It would be nice to find Sitka spruce. I will settle for white ash. I would like 16 foot, clear, and without scarf joints for both the inwales and outwales.
Willing to drive 400 or so miles from Brookings to fetch. Anybody got an idea?
"Boredom, Tyler - that's what's wrong. And how do you beat boredom, Tyler?... Adventure...(Never Cry Wolf, 1983)
01/10/2011 09:48AM
You'd have to ship it, but aircraftspruce will have the sitka spruce you're looking for.
Why no scarf joint? I've used scarf joints on about 6 gunwale jobs and they are every bit as strong as a solid piece. If you're careful to match up the wood well you'd be hard pressed to find the seam.
Why no scarf joint? I've used scarf joints on about 6 gunwale jobs and they are every bit as strong as a solid piece. If you're careful to match up the wood well you'd be hard pressed to find the seam.
We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children -Chief Seattle
01/10/2011 04:13PM
GPS is right about cabinet shops. I got 4, full length, brown ash gunnels for $20. They had "scrap" left from ripping stock they were hanging onto. When I told them what I wanted it for, they ripped them to width for me - no charge. They were happy to get the $20 for wood that was of no use to them.
Bannock
01/10/2011 07:58PM
I called NW Canoe today and talked to Dennis. They have a full length ash gunwale-roundover (like that used on MadRiver). A drive over to the Cities in spring will be good (about 250 miles from Brookings). Right now, this is a "bird-in-the-hand", but I will keep looking for other options.
MWD Q: why no scarf? HPD Ans: I don't have a logical reason. After this canoe (and this experience), I might change.
NW Canoe ash-gunwale
MWD Q: why no scarf? HPD Ans: I don't have a logical reason. After this canoe (and this experience), I might change.
NW Canoe ash-gunwale
"Boredom, Tyler - that's what's wrong. And how do you beat boredom, Tyler?... Adventure...(Never Cry Wolf, 1983)
01/10/2011 08:34PM
HPD
You might find someone coming from the cities that could do a "gunwale drop" for you saving you some time and cash(maybe something for their effort). I don't get out that way but someone else may from time to time. Worth a shot to ask around the board.
CB
You might find someone coming from the cities that could do a "gunwale drop" for you saving you some time and cash(maybe something for their effort). I don't get out that way but someone else may from time to time. Worth a shot to ask around the board.
CB
01/11/2011 08:32PM
I hear ya GSP........ the price was a bit subtle $40 ea and it takes 4 pieces......... 4 X $40 = lots of money.
I think I need to do my own......... creates ownership and pride. I like that. BUT, I still need to find a hunk of ash
"Boredom, Tyler - that's what's wrong. And how do you beat boredom, Tyler?... Adventure...(Never Cry Wolf, 1983)
01/12/2011 02:36PM
HighPlainsDrifter,
I am very fussy about my workmanship just like you.
I used 8' clear stock on my 38 Special Merlin because it is easier to find and also less costly.
I used a nice new "finger joint" router bit in the router table and matched the pieces before gluing with epoxy. The joint is very strong so the wood will likely fail before the joint.
The results were near perfect. You would need to look hard to ever notice the joint. My joint was placed on center of the canoe but you could place it within the area of a scupper to make it even less noticeable. I can find the joints but the average person will never notice.
Dick
I am very fussy about my workmanship just like you.
I used 8' clear stock on my 38 Special Merlin because it is easier to find and also less costly.
I used a nice new "finger joint" router bit in the router table and matched the pieces before gluing with epoxy. The joint is very strong so the wood will likely fail before the joint.
The results were near perfect. You would need to look hard to ever notice the joint. My joint was placed on center of the canoe but you could place it within the area of a scupper to make it even less noticeable. I can find the joints but the average person will never notice.
Dick
"Go Green-Wear REAL FUR"
01/14/2011 09:16PM
Ranger:
I have not found my wood. This seems like it should be a "no-brainer", but it is proving to be a pain.
Mike at Heartland Wood Products (Redwood falls, MN) thinks he can line me up. I have plenty to work on right now, so I will let the gunnel stock sit for a bit until nicer driving weather.
Sparetime:
The Albert Lee connection may also hold promise
Buffalo:
If the crap hits the fan I will follow your suggestion on the finger joint
Thanks for the tips guys.
I have not found my wood. This seems like it should be a "no-brainer", but it is proving to be a pain.
Mike at Heartland Wood Products (Redwood falls, MN) thinks he can line me up. I have plenty to work on right now, so I will let the gunnel stock sit for a bit until nicer driving weather.
Sparetime:
The Albert Lee connection may also hold promise
Buffalo:
If the crap hits the fan I will follow your suggestion on the finger joint
Thanks for the tips guys.
"Boredom, Tyler - that's what's wrong. And how do you beat boredom, Tyler?... Adventure...(Never Cry Wolf, 1983)
01/15/2011 07:29AM
I used 3/4" x 1" with a kerf edge to cover the edge and then 1/2 rounded edge in the mad river form. I am in Mankato, picked up the pieces at Lloyd Lumber they had it in stock at the time. It was plenty solid and I would consider going a little smaller next time. I do have one piece of ash left that is 3/4" x 1 1/2" and little over 16'
German Shorthair Pointers Rule Serenity is found in your mind, not somewhere you seek.
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