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08/05/2009 06:24PM   (Thread Older Than 3 Years)
I joined this site in August of 2007 because I had done a few "completely outfitted" trips in the past and was looking to learn more. Because of this site and the good members on it I have "graduated" to the point where I now have all my own gear and have done several trips in the last couple years. Heck, I have even taken my young daughter on several trips to the great north. The comfort level that allows me to do this is very much because of the help I have received on this site. Now that I am a little more experienced, I feel good that I am able to reciprocate the help I received to others. The Spirit of the Wilderness in cyberspace!

Adam and the moderators have created a wonderful site for us to exchange ideas, stories, experiences and even a few laughs. Sadly, I fear that the site is becoming more and more angry and critical than it was when I joined. It would sadden me if this trend continues.

I have witnessed new members being lashed and criticized for asking simple questions. Screaming matches containing foul language have occurred in the chat room and on the forum. Post are deleted because they are inappropriate. Is this what the site is about now? Ridicule and snobbery?

I think too many of us forget that the username you are conversing with or responding to is actually another human being. It is very possible that the "username" you are arguing with could end up being the "stranger" that helps you carry a pack across a portage, saves you from the angry waters after dumping you canoe, or invites you to share a campfire on a cold night when all the others sites have been taken.

Please join me by pledging to treat all members (new and old) with dignity and respect. Remember, we were all "newbies" at one point and all of us still have much to learn. The wilderness is a wonderful place that teaches us many life lessons including Humility. Let us remember the lessons we have learned in God's country and try to live them in the forum, in the chat room and in our everyday lives.
 
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08/05/2009 07:15PM  
Amen
 
08/05/2009 07:22PM  
i'm in
 
OBX2Kayak
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08/05/2009 07:48PM  
Agree!
 
gbusk
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08/05/2009 08:21PM  
Very eloquent Kip, I pledge.
 
08/05/2009 08:22PM  
as do i. a new leaf is turned over for me tonight.
 
bertrand russell
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08/05/2009 08:22PM  
"I think too many of us forget that the username you are conversing with or responding to is actually another human being. It is very possible that the "username" you are arguing with could end up being the "stranger" that helps you carry a pack across a portage..."

True dat.

To be fair, I think some things people have written have been misunderstood because people write on the web with a certain familiarity uncommon among strangers in real life. When you meet someone face to face, you don't usually lead with light trash talking. Good natured ribbing can easily be misunderstood in the absence of facial expressions, tone, and context.
 
Buffy
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08/05/2009 08:29PM  
Of course--the same as if I were speaking with you all face to face.
 
pmagoo7777
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08/05/2009 08:33PM  
Thank you!
 
gbusk
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08/05/2009 08:44PM  
Bertrand's gotta point, body language and word inflexion play a greater role in communication than the typed word.
 
airmorse
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08/05/2009 09:16PM  
"Treat everyone as you would want to be treated".

I PLEDGE.

Posted perfectly. Thank you Kiporby!!!
 
08/05/2009 09:25PM  
Well said, Kip, I agree 100% - count me in
 
Savage Voyageur
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08/05/2009 09:27PM  
Great post Kip, I'm in.
 
Mort
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08/05/2009 09:28PM  
Truth that needed to be said. Thank you Kiporby.

I'm definitely on board!
 
wetcanoedog
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08/05/2009 09:28PM  
Scouts Honor...really.
 
08/05/2009 09:28PM  
Agreed. Very well said, Kip.
 
bojibob
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08/05/2009 09:39PM  
Kip,

Thank you for this post. I found it very timely as I have seen or been involved in a couple of incidents this week. Sometimes it is hard to judge the tone of a post...where no malice was intended but malice was seen and felt. I value this site for the expertise that is available. I promise to try to give more than I take and recheck every post for potential "land mines" before I click send.

Thanks again for your thoughtfulness.

 
08/05/2009 11:00PM  
Amen, count me in.
 
andym
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08/05/2009 11:45PM  
Wee said, I'm in (and nodding my head as I read the post).
 
08/06/2009 02:07AM  
Me 18, only 9,982 to go!
 
08/06/2009 05:56AM  
aye aye
 
stonecutter
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08/06/2009 06:14AM  
"Do unto others as you would have others do unto you" Such a simple concept yet seemingly one of the hardest for some people to follow. Thanks for the reminder Kip.
 
08/06/2009 06:42AM  

Okie Dokie.

hummm....
 
08/06/2009 07:04AM  
Me too.
 
onajourney
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08/06/2009 07:15AM  
I Pledge!

For 2+ years I pretty much was a "lurker" - tried to learn as much as I possibly could, and used many ideas to make our trips great. I was afraid to post because I didn't want to seem "stupid", etc. Now I realize I have learned quite a bit, and have started to add to the forums. I simply don't want to get involved in any controversy.

Thanks for the reminder.
 
photonanax2
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08/06/2009 07:23AM  
I too am pretty much a lurker, don't post much and since I'm taking my first trip in September, don't feel as if I have a lot to contribute. But I have learned a lot from the members that are here and I think because of that I will be better prepared for this trip. Thank you Kip and too will take the "Oath of Dignity and Respect", not only for the members here, but for the BWCA as well.

Debbie K.
 
w_w_w_31
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08/06/2009 07:25AM  
Great reminder, as we all need a little nudge in the right direction on occasion. Thanks much Kiporby.

dave
 
bapabear
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08/06/2009 07:35AM  
I agree. Thank you Kip for bringing this up.

I do hope to see this site flourish. I have learned more than I've ever expected to from my experience here and have found it to be a daily stop in my internet travels. A lot of the appeal has been the sense of sharing, humor and community. I hereby take the oath.
 
saltdog
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08/06/2009 07:38AM  
Count me in -- this is a club I am honored to join
 
Beemer01
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08/06/2009 08:09AM  
Nicely said.

Would make the moderator's lives easier too!

 
Earl
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08/06/2009 08:31AM  
Such a valuable resource. Among the many things I like about this site is the respect afforded others/newbies like myself. I self-deleted a post I made yesterday, because upon further reflection I thought it could be offensive - wasn't intended that way - but none-the-less. Always best to take a deep breath before posting. Consider me oathed!
 
SWEST
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08/06/2009 09:03AM  
Its all about respect I'm in
 
520eek
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08/06/2009 09:41AM  
Count me in!
 
Malamom
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08/06/2009 10:45AM  
Thanks Kip...I'm in.
 
solotrek
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08/06/2009 11:10AM  

Thank you for this post. I was considering taking a break from here for all the reasons you cited. But the right thing to do is what you did -- speak up. Count me in.
 
08/06/2009 11:20AM  
Thanks for your posting - this is a great Messageboard with a lot of great members! Sometimes the discussions turn in to heated debates which lead to emotions being displayed. Let's all work hard keep it positive! :)
 
Bog
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08/06/2009 12:08PM  
Count me in!
 
keithcatfish
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08/06/2009 12:08PM  
I'm in. This site is a gold mine of information, especially for those new to the BWCA. I feel an obligation to respectfully help others like so many of you did for me.
 
choff
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08/06/2009 12:12PM  
Very nice. I'm in too.
 
08/06/2009 01:58PM  
Well put. I pledge.

 
08/06/2009 02:08PM  
Thanks Kip ! We're in.
 
woodsandwater
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08/06/2009 03:03PM  
I pledge, too! Thanks!
 
nelsonone
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08/06/2009 03:12PM  
Second the Okie Dokie!
I love coming here reading the forums, looking at pictures and what not. I seem to be more of a reader than a poster.
 
Dennisal
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08/06/2009 03:50PM  
Totally agree..
 
cheesehead
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08/06/2009 03:58PM  
i wonder if bromel will return now?
 
kavdvm
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08/06/2009 04:06PM  
Very well said! Count me in as a pledge.
 
NDCanoe
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08/06/2009 04:36PM  
Agree. This site is great.
 
TN Man
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08/06/2009 04:48PM  
Agreed! In fact I just invited a couple of newbies to join and learn as I have done over the past few years.
 
08/06/2009 05:04PM  
I took a few months off from viewing the site due to some of the angry posts. I use this site to wind down, relax, and get away from crabby people so Kip, I thank you for this post.

I'm in!

Also, if I have posted anything members have taken offense to, I apologize.
 
08/06/2009 05:31PM  
Scrolling thru the replies I would say you are preaching to the choir, but Dignity and Respect can always use some preaching [about]!
I DO SO PLEDGE!

butthead
 
Arkansas Man
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08/06/2009 06:32PM  
Dan,
Very good post and thoughts... As mentioned many of the people here agree whole heartedly with what you have said. As moderators we try not to intervene too much, and we hope that everyone gets along and that discussions progress as they should, with the exchange of ideas and tips. It is human nature to disagree at times, although it can be done civily.
The bad side of the internet as mentioned too, is the freedom to say in type what you probably would not say in person. There are other boards I do not frequent as much simply because of the bickering.
I like you, and everyone else think this is a premier site for the exchange of information about canoing and camping. The members here continue to make this board what it is, and you stepping forward with this Oath and Pledge of Dignity and Respect shows the integrity that is here! Again, Well Done!!

Bruce
 
emptynest56
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08/06/2009 08:09PM  
Let's be an oasis of respect, peace, and dignity, just like the land we love so much! Most excellent thread!

Tim
 
08/06/2009 08:36PM  
Well said.
I joined in February. Not so new to the world....just this site. The folks on here with experience have tought me so much it is truly appreiciated. and I in turn have tried to share some good thougts around my "Life experiences"

I will PLEDGE to be honorable and respectful me-self!!!!
SunCatcher
 
08/06/2009 08:42PM  
I pledge!!!
 
muskielips
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08/06/2009 08:57PM  
Thanks Kip! A breath of fresh air! I too was tiring of some of the ridicule and snobbery that was being posted. I learn with each trip I make to the outdoors regardless of the locale and I hope to be patient with those that follow and learn from those who proceded me.

Thanks
 
08/06/2009 09:19PM  
+1

(wait, nobody really does the plus one here. . . :-)
 
Jackfish
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08/06/2009 10:14PM  
Count me in.

This thread is exactly what makes this site a good one.
 
08/06/2009 10:49PM  
I too, take the pledge.
 
Bill Tea
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08/06/2009 10:59PM  
Absolutely agree. Great thread. Thanks!
 
dicecupmaker
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08/07/2009 04:45AM  
" Hear! Here!.....?
 
timberwolf
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08/07/2009 05:07AM  
I too was starting to stray away from the site because of bickering and ridecule, and it's very nice to hear someone speak up and in a very tastefull manner. Bravo to you Kip well done. Oh yea....I pledge!!
 
lassenstap
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08/07/2009 07:17AM  
Cheers mate for a wonderful post
 
08/07/2009 07:58AM  
Ditto
 
08/07/2009 08:51AM  
Kip, I don't think this will get you a discount on your next trip....good post anyway ;) I is oathed.
 
Basspro69
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08/07/2009 08:55AM  
Very well said Kip I agree completely, remember there are no stupid questions ! P. S. This is the best post ive seen since ive been on this site, thanks Kip :-)
 
Old Hoosier
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08/07/2009 09:12AM  
Yup, I'm in.
 
08/07/2009 09:30AM  
yep kip.
 
08/07/2009 10:06AM  
One of the Best Posts I've read all week! Thanks Kip! I share in your thoughts! I'm On Board! I think we should all just get along & agree to disagree. Amen!
 
muskrat
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08/07/2009 12:01PM  
Thanks Kip,
I do so pledge !
As i.ve said before If you don't have anything nice to say keep your fingers off the keyboard.
 
knothead180
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08/07/2009 12:25PM  
I agree completely! Whenever I read a post that gets my dander up, rather than add fuel to the fire, I hit the back button on my browser and go on to the next thread. Why dwell on the negative when there are so many positive topics to enjoy?
 
campgirl
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08/07/2009 01:14PM  
I'm in.
 
08/07/2009 03:26PM  
Yes. Thanks for bringing us all towards this "re-group". :)
 
lundojam
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08/07/2009 03:37PM  
me, too. Good job.
 
schweady
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08/07/2009 04:29PM  
Thanks, Kip.

"I do."
 
08/07/2009 04:40PM  
I'm in
 
Cedarboy
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08/07/2009 04:46PM  
"On my honor I........"
CB
 
08/07/2009 05:48PM  
It only makes sense to do this.
 
08/07/2009 06:37PM  
Kudos to you kip for starting this thread.

"Count me in."
 
08/07/2009 07:08PM  
in
 
08/07/2009 07:29PM  
In Man!! Love this site
 
08/08/2009 12:13PM  
Where's the "I Like" button when you need it?
 
Bearman
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08/08/2009 01:29PM  
What have you been saying to each other??????????
 
08/08/2009 03:59PM  
I am in!
 
bugman
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08/09/2009 05:18PM  
I'm in.
 
thecanoeman
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08/09/2009 06:25PM  
I'm in
 
08/09/2009 06:41PM  
Wisdom beyond your years, Kip.

But then again, I remember learning that in kindergarten.

Checked back and am impressed with how many responded positively.

Thanks again.
 
08/09/2009 07:47PM  
kiporby should go the the middle east. talk to the palestinians and israelis...get that conflict settled once and for all. i really think he could do it.
 
Woodbender
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08/09/2009 08:15PM  
Yeah I'm all for it. I've seen such behavior completely ruin another forum.

If I wouldn't say it across a camp fire - I don't say it here.

Thanks Kip and thanks to the Moderators.
 
Odyssey186
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08/10/2009 08:05AM  
I figured this is as good of a place as any to make my first post!

I'm in, can't wait to get back to the Boundary Waters - it's been almost 15 years. I need to make it an annual thing again.
 
08/10/2009 08:47AM  
Welcome, odyssey186!

Of course I'm in. ;-)

As an aside, just because I'm so excited...I'm almost all packed for next week's trip. Woo! It's been a long 11 year gap...

(((group hug))) (LOL)
 
08/10/2009 09:41AM  
Kiporby,

Same experience here. Went a number of times fully outfitted by a couple of great outfitters. But, through my learning, via this great site, I too go it on my own (except for the periodic tow)!

Don't know if I would have done it, without the welcome response to the many questions posted on this site.

 
08/10/2009 10:09AM  
welcome all and thanks everyone for helping!

i pledge
 
willys53
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08/10/2009 11:05AM  
YUP!
 
08/10/2009 08:04PM  
I support these concepts.
 
GeoFisher
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08/10/2009 08:08PM  
I'm guilty......I will try better.......

I'm IN.......

Geo
 
silverback
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08/10/2009 08:24PM  
I take the Oath.
 
bogie3and1
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08/12/2009 01:53PM  
Although I don't say much, I'm in!
 
08/12/2009 02:29PM  
Thanks to those of you who have helped me. So far, everyone's responded respectfully to my questions. When I do have something to offer, I aim to do the same...

DMR (oh yeah, count me in...)
 
reelcowboy
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08/12/2009 03:23PM  
Excellent post, I'm in.
 
ironmike
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08/12/2009 04:05PM  
Count me in.
 
Rapid Runner
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08/12/2009 04:32PM  
This post needs to stay at the top for everyone not to miss. i took a week hiatus and see that i missed this one. I am guilty also and i am in as well.
 
woodlandqueen
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08/12/2009 08:14PM  
I also take the oath of dignity and respect towards people, living things and towards conservation of this planet...

hows that? am i in? :)
 
Jimmy2toes
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08/14/2009 08:53PM  
Count me in.
Jim
 
karenmb
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08/15/2009 07:50AM  
As a newbie I am so thankful for all that I have learned at this site. I still have a lot to learn so I plan to use it extensively for future trips.

I did read some threads in which some quickly degraded others for poor planning or bad decisions. It seemed really odd to me because it was so different than the virtual interaction that I experienced. Perhaps user-names cloak our human-ness too much. I know I chose mine without really thinking it would become the name I am known by. I might have chosen something more creative and more of a mask if I knew I would be on the site so much-- wave-whisperer,canoe-can-do, sparkle-water...

And the irony-- the BWCA wilderness ethic seems like almost as big a draw as the place itself-- a creed that says/implies leave no trace, respect the earth, be gentle...

So anyway, this oath/creed/pledge is a nice idea and I am all in. Karen
 
N8 Tr1
  
08/15/2009 09:24AM  
I'm in
 
08/15/2009 11:32AM  
Well Said. I couldn't agree more.
 
mcmillcd
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08/15/2009 05:07PM  
Very well said. I'm in.
 
airmorse
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08/24/2009 10:32PM  
Just bringing this back up to the top.
 
Maddog
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08/25/2009 11:44AM  
 
perseidwatcher
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08/27/2009 08:29AM  
I will take the oath.
 
Mort
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08/27/2009 11:17AM  
I enthusiastically agree. Count me in.
 
HighPlainsDrifter
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08/27/2009 10:00PM  

I have been away for a while. This post caught my interest as I looked for "what is new" (after a long absence). The words are nicely done.... the thought, an etiquette standard both here and in the field. Thanks for the post.


 
09/02/2009 09:51AM  
I am guilty of losing my cool on this board in the past but I am now taking the Oath of Dignity and Respect. Thanks for this post and for helping create a way to share valuable BWCAW information in a respectful environment.
 
oldmil
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09/02/2009 09:23PM  
You got my vote! Part of the reason I frequent this board more often is to get away from that type of action on other boards.

Oldmil
 
09/02/2009 09:56PM  
i agree with the start of this tread. i pledge. it has been nice to meet some of you at the wing nights. i hope that more will join them. it is so nice to put faces and names together. even if i don't remember them all.
 
09/03/2009 12:29PM  
Thanks Kip. I'm in.

You said it well.
 
09/04/2009 03:27PM  
I agree
 
09/10/2009 08:39PM  
Sign me up - I'm in!
 
09/17/2009 02:00PM  
I agree. Thanks Kip.
 
09/18/2009 12:11AM  
Up with this sort of thing. I'm in!

Croixboy96
 
Basspro69
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09/30/2009 04:38PM  
Kip I want to thank you again for this, it really has made a differnce on this site !
 
09/30/2009 04:48PM  
I agree

This site is my drug until I can go again next june!!!
 
ChuckCrews
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10/01/2009 02:09PM  
I just stumbled onto this site and it reminded me of how much enjoyment I got from my trips. I hope to make it back this next summer. I take the pledge.
 
mc2mens
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10/01/2009 07:21PM  
:-)
 
10/02/2009 08:09AM  
Where do I sign? You won't be asking for donations now will you Dan? I'm in buddy.
 
bojibob
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10/24/2009 08:05PM  
Bumping it up.
 
speedwayusher
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10/24/2009 08:39PM  
I'm in
 
mattmilleroutdoors
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10/25/2009 12:38AM  
im in
 
10/25/2009 06:08PM  
Count me in also
 
10/26/2009 02:35PM  
Another Amen, brother!
 
bailer
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10/26/2009 07:53PM  
Wow, a lot of replies.

I'm in.
 
laker
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10/27/2009 02:51AM  
lame
 
10/27/2009 08:19AM  
ahhhhh, another elusive guest paddler bravely posting thier opinions. (alright im in as long as it's still o.k. to subject, GUEST PADDLERS AND THOSE WHO HAVE'NT TAKEN THE OATH, to our finely crafted "ridicule and snobbery" c'mon kiporby ya know its fair.
 
Blueshadow
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10/27/2009 08:49AM  
I also pledge to comply. I think that is how we all would wish to be treated....respectfully. It's a site that has a lot to offer and it should not for any reason steer people away because of negative experiences.
 
mjmkjun
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11/09/2009 06:21AM  
Nice post, Kiporby

 
Basspro69
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11/09/2009 07:54AM  
Kiporby I think i need to retake the oath, because i havent really been that nice to Packer fans lately, considering their team keeps getting pounded into the dirt, but I digress, Im retaking the oath right now :-)
 
The Great Outdoors
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11/09/2009 08:20AM  
Basspro69
Don't do it, Bro!!!!!
The oath of dignity and respect DOES NOT APPLY to the Packers or their fans.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
11/09/2009 08:20AM  
bp69 GOOD NEWS, i had my attourney look this oath over and he says, " this oath in no way applies to packer fans while on the subject of football". its our turn now enjoy it.
 
silverback
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11/09/2009 09:16AM  
Gentlemen, Kip has already given his blessing to smack talk. However, you should ALL feel guilty for hammering on us poor Packer fans while we are down. We would NEVER do that to our dearest neighbors to the west. Shame on you!





Who Dat
 
The Great Outdoors
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11/09/2009 09:27AM  
Yes, we know you wouldn't kick us when we're down!
And the check is in the mail..............!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Vikings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tampa Bay, WOW:)
 
sotaman
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11/09/2009 11:17AM  
I shall obey the oath.
 
The Great Outdoors
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11/09/2009 10:54PM  
fisher,
You state: bp69 GOOD NEWS, I had my attorney look this oath over and he says, " this oath in no way applies to packer fans while on the subject of football". its our turn now enjoy it.

This oath doesn't need an attorney's interpretation, since anyone with ANY DIGNITY OR RESPECT, could never be a Packer fan!!! :)
 
11/10/2009 09:02AM  
Or an attorney.
 
bojibob
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11/22/2009 09:00AM  
In a recent post. I saw someone reference this to a exchange that was taking place between two members. I thought it was appropriate to bump this up.

But, even though I agree with the principles of this, there are some people who come to this board to self promote themselves or to show how intelligent they by deftly making comments that can very easily be taken as a shots across the bow. I have repeatedly seen one of the newer members doing this and he finally got slapped by the "paw" which in my opinion was overdue.

This new member is also the member of another board where he reguarly "stirs the pot" and has become a persona non grata there.

So this is my message to that person. You are not the smartest person in the room, we are all equal here. So please don't bring your "debate posting style" to this board.

The Oath does not, in my opinion prevent this.

 
11/22/2009 09:26AM  
re-upping now. the alternative just isnt worth it.
 
11/22/2009 12:06PM  
Bojibob, great post! Thank you. I have not taken the oath and probably will not. A quote to think about, if you want to debate every subject. "I can win an argument on any topic, against any opponent. People know this, and steer clear of me at parties. Often, as a sign of their great respect, they don't even invite me." Dave Barry (1947 -
 
11/22/2009 04:55PM  
I agree, great post bob - thank you. G, I also like the quote you posted - thank you, too.
 
11/24/2009 10:28AM  
Been away for a while but please count me in on this...
 
quetico152
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11/24/2009 11:11AM  
somehow i havnt done this yet, so i agree to take the oath
 
11/24/2009 11:18AM  
Count me in ..... again.

Thanks Kiporboy.
 
shoreviewswede
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11/25/2009 08:19AM  
Agreed.
Thanks Kiporby.
 
11/25/2009 08:29AM  
Wow! 150 posts!

A bunch of good natured folks. The wilderness brings out the best in me. I am glad it has the same effect on all of you!

See you out there! :)
 
rookie in 03
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11/25/2009 07:33PM  
i too found this site to be invaluable in outfitting and planning trips, can't imagine if i'd have gotten slammed for asking what are now to me "simple" questions. thanks to EVERYONE and count me in with my pledge.



 
mc2mens
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02/20/2010 11:34PM  
quote bojibob: "In a recent post. I saw someone reference this to a exchange that was taking place between two members. I thought it was appropriate to bump this up.



But, even though I agree with the principles of this, there are some people who come to this board to self promote themselves or to show how intelligent they by deftly making comments that can very easily be taken as a shots across the bow. I have repeatedly seen one of the newer members doing this and he finally got slapped by the "paw" which in my opinion was overdue.



This new member is also the member of another board where he reguarly "stirs the pot" and has become a persona non grata there.



So this is my message to that person. You are not the smartest person in the room, we are all equal here. So please don't bring your "debate posting style" to this board.



The Oath does not, in my opinion prevent this.



"


I think I know who you're talkin about rob...thought it needed another bump.
 
02/20/2010 11:36PM  
Amen Jeff.
 
inthewoods
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02/21/2010 02:15PM  
yupp!!
 
02/21/2010 08:20PM  
Jeff and Rob,
You guys are so right!!
 
02/21/2010 08:37PM  
Thanks for bumping it Jeff - it absolutely needed it and Rob is absolutley right. :)
 
jb in the wild
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02/21/2010 09:12PM  
Kip when your right,your right.
 
millerb
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02/22/2010 04:10PM  
Me too, me too, me too!!!
 
GraniteCliffs
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02/22/2010 09:51PM  
I wonder how many of us are thinking: "Good God, I hope it isn't me?!"
Perhaps it is a good reminder to us all. Good post.

On the other hand, paranoia runs deep.
It wasn't me was it?
No really, you can tell me.
Honest, I will try harder.
I am not that bad a person. Ask my friend. You can call him in a couple of months when he gets out early for good behavior.
Really.
Was it me? Just say it. I can take it.
Another sleepless night in Minnesota worrying myself to death.
There goes my grip on sanity.

It must be time to hit the water.
 
gbusk
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02/22/2010 10:19PM  
Don't worry G. Cliffs, those whom this well written post was initially written for would never think of themselves as it's intended target.

They rest well wondering why everyone else is so clueless. :)
 
mc2mens
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02/22/2010 10:31PM  
hahaha GC! I doubt it!
 
02/23/2010 08:28AM  
:)GC -

The old man used to say "you're not paranoid...they really are out to get you!. Why is that?"
 
marc bates
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02/23/2010 09:33AM  
I am a little late, but I am in. Very well stated, and a great idea.
 
ejschepler
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02/23/2010 09:50AM  
Nothing worse that reading posts from so called "know-it-alls" or just plain negative people. I can think of one person in another forum (Isle Royale) that I wish would "get it". I have been enjoying this site alot!! Thanks for all the help. I am in!
 
MrWalleye
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02/23/2010 02:03PM  
I pledge and pinky-swear!
 
02/24/2010 01:50PM  
Well put - I pledge! I haven't been on the "Listening Post" board much. When I saw this topic I thought it referred to behavior in the BWCA itself which might make for a good separate topic.
 
spottedowl
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02/25/2010 06:58PM  
Huh? It wasn't you that did what? Get out for good behavior? Wow. Good God, I hope that's not me!
 
gundog1
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02/25/2010 09:11PM  
Why not? Everybody else is doing it. I'm in.
 
mboehme
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02/25/2010 09:52PM  
Very good suggestion. In a sense, respecting each other in this forum is not unlike our pledge to respect the BWCAW when we agree to "leave no trace."
 
02/27/2010 06:00PM  
Harumf! Harumf! (Blazing Saddles)
 
06/09/2010 05:29PM  
Back to the top. There has been too much negativity, fighting and harsh words exchanged as of late.

I do not want this site to be damaged. I enjoy it way too much for a few to ruin it for the majority.

Peace, harmony, dignity and respect my friends! Learn to live it and mean it!!
 
06/09/2010 06:13PM  
Amen, count me in.
 
06/09/2010 08:05PM  
I pledge to offer advice when I can, ask only BW related questions, and thank those who answer them.

Doin' my part to keep it at the top.
 
sloughman
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06/09/2010 08:08PM  
I'm in!
 
06/09/2010 08:42PM  
quote Kiporby: "Back to the top. There has been too much negativity, fighting and harsh words exchanged as of late.


I do not want this site to be damaged. I enjoy it way too much for a few to ruin it for the majority.


Peace, harmony, dignity and respect my friends! Learn to live it and mean it!!"


Amen and count me in as always
 
06/09/2010 09:10PM  
Thanks Kiporby, as a relative newbie I hadn't seen this before. Sad to think it's needed a bump three times within a year... but I DO PLEDGE! Thanks again.
 
06/09/2010 09:16PM  
Agreed.
 
lil_red
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06/09/2010 11:23PM  
I'm in.
 
Basspro69
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06/09/2010 11:30PM  
Once again this is the best post ever Kip .
 
The Great Outdoors
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06/10/2010 06:25AM  
I hope this doesn't mean we can't dis Packer fans anymore:(
 
ChazzTheGnome
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06/10/2010 07:38AM  
Spent a few days contemplating a scathing post about all the negativity here on my favorite internet-machine-site, but thought that would just add to the bad vibe. Thought also about not visiting this site anymore…really don’t want to give up all the good just cause of a little bad though.

Thought that taking the oath and helping to keep this post at the top is a better way to go.

 
solotrek
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06/10/2010 08:25AM  

I was in before -- still am!
 
06/10/2010 08:48AM  

I couldn't agree more! "Those who bring sunshine to the lives of others cannot keep it from themselves"


P.S. Feel free to dis this Packer fan anytime.
 
06/10/2010 08:59AM  
quote The Great Outdoors: "I hope this doesn't mean we can't dis Packer fans anymore:("


Trash Talk about football is OK TGO. Just remember that us Packer fans may reciprocate! :)
 
smalltown
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06/10/2010 12:28PM  
im in!
 
The Great Outdoors
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06/10/2010 12:31PM  
Trash Talk about football is OK TGO. Just remember that us Packer fans may reciprocate! :)"

I would expect nothing less, but don't think any Packer fan has the gonads to dis a REAL Viking fan!!!!!!!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
JEFF2053
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06/10/2010 12:35PM  
Not that I'm a frequent poster but count me in
 
06/10/2010 01:48PM  
One of my secret vices is reality TV. I don't know... all the crazy people and the weird issues that they are perfectly fine splaying all over the TV is just mezmorizing!!!

But I come here to hear wonderous stories of the seemingly infinite lakes, fantasy fishing, wildlife encounters... I want to learn which paddling adventure should be my next, I want to hear the stories from the people who are older than me still treking through the portages to their place of peace.

I promise to leave reality TV behavior to the "Wife Swap" participants I might converse with- everyone here will get only the same respect and dignity I would give on... lets say a portage I might meet them on.
 
Jackfish
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06/10/2010 04:37PM  
quote The Great Outdoors: "I hope this doesn't mean we can't dis Packer fans anymore:("

TGO, you're one of the more vocal Packer dissers and I'm ok with it as long as it's a fun, respectful bit of trash-talking.

Just remember, turnabout is fair play as long as it doesn't elevate to ugly.
 
06/10/2010 08:40PM  
Count me in. (again)
 
airmorse
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08/24/2010 03:19PM  
Bump.
 
08/24/2010 03:26PM  
quote airmorse: "Bump."


Thank you Airmorse!
 
08/24/2010 03:55PM  
I renew my Oath of Dignity and Respect.....again.
 
pswith5
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08/24/2010 03:58PM  
I am in agreement. Echoing where bertrand started also: I believe text messaging, facebook, myspace,cell phones and the internet as a whole in some extant are a bane on society! (I know that makes me a bit of a hypocrite being here) Typing these words can be impersonal and at times hurtful. As previously expressed, they are just words and don't always have the intended emotion behind them. My daughter and her grand-mother had a major misunderstanding due to one not seeing the other laughing at what was meant as a joke. Very sad. While I will continue to enjoy the good of this site I will try to keep it upbeat, helpful, and a measure to share and savor the passion for the BWCAW. Thanks for the thread! Pete
 
08/24/2010 05:20PM  
Count me in. I am a big fan of this web-site. I enjoy reading everyone's points of view.
 
08/24/2010 06:17PM  
quote fishguts: "I renew my Oath of Dignity and Respect.....again. "

Ditto.
This is what I do. Before clicking submit, carefully read what I've written and think, could this possibly tick anybody off? If I think it might, I edit before posting or just delete the entire post.
 
rayman
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08/24/2010 06:40PM  
No way, I'm out
 
08/24/2010 06:41PM  
I'm in.
 
08/24/2010 07:04PM  
quote rayman: "No way, I'm out"

Ha! Prepare to be Moderated Rayman.
 
08/24/2010 09:20PM  
I'm STILL in!
 
Billbo
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08/24/2010 09:39PM  
 
08/24/2010 10:16PM  
interesting to see some of the people who have made this oath and then read their posts.
 
solotrek
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08/25/2010 07:55AM  
quote bradcrc: "interesting to see some of the people who have made this oath and then read their posts."


I'm in for the third time.

That said, I agree with bradcrc. I think it's great that this thread was ever started and great that it gets bumped when necessary. The value of the oath is not in taking it, but rather, maintaining and following it. It's sad, but all this thread really seems to do is to confirm what most of us do and feel anyway. I love this site and the vast majority of members are respectful and sensitive when they disagree with a topic or someone's stance.

The fact is, however, that some who have taken this oath have gone on to break it, which not only makes them disrespectful, it makes them hypocrites, as well. Another fact is that many who go against this oath never signed up for it in the first place. I actually have more respect for those people. Although they're disrespectful, they're not hypocrites, too.

I'm in and I will follow it. It's sad, however, that we ever needed it in the first place.
 
blutofish1
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08/25/2010 10:10AM  
Count me in too.
 
Snipit
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08/25/2010 06:16PM  
quote bradcrc: "interesting to see some of the people who have made this oath and then read their posts."

Bump.....



interesting.



 
08/25/2010 09:05PM  
As a Christian man this is easy I am in. Thanks for the original post.
 
08/25/2010 09:38PM  
I'm renewing, and invite anyone to politely point it out if I should happen to stray by accident. I hope I'm strong enough to rescind and make amends if need be.

Thanks Airmorse.
 
Always Outdoors
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08/25/2010 10:41PM  
Great post Kip!
 
08/26/2010 08:41AM  
Count on me!
 
08/26/2010 10:31AM  
upon reflection, some of you are correct.....i have been a jerk again. no excuse for it.

re-upping on the oath.

thanks again dan.
 
08/26/2010 11:53AM  
Amen.
 
anacoluthia
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12/18/2010 07:40PM  
It seems some have fallen off the wagon as of late. :(
 
Basspro69
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12/18/2010 07:51PM  
Im still in, even though subjects like the Green bay packers test my oath from time to time :-)
 
12/18/2010 08:08PM  
i'll take the oath, not just for this site but for everyday life, too.
 
12/18/2010 08:38PM  
no problem for me to take this pledge. i have always considered myself fortunate to have been taught wilderness skills by some of the most experienced woodsmen in the north. on the trail I love to share this knowledge, to do this with dignity and respect does take a bit of skill and diplomacy.
 
12/19/2010 09:39PM  
Yep....once again I'm in. Who ever bumped it - thanks~!
 
12/20/2010 07:18AM  
I'm in again. Thanks.
 
12/20/2010 07:32AM  
A good reminder and as Mocha pointed out, not just for here.
 
12/20/2010 07:34AM  
I so pledge.
 
10/04/2011 09:30PM  
Never saw this. Count me in and bump it.
Thanks Rapid Runner.
 
10/04/2011 09:51PM  
10-4 will comply
 
bojibob
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10/04/2011 10:19PM  
Everyone has been doing very well. I think the "Standard" for the behavior here has been established and those that violated our happy world have been banished.
 
10/05/2011 07:06AM  
quote fitgers1: "Never saw this. Count me in and bump it.
Thanks Rapid Runner."


This is the first I've seen it also. I'm in 100% !!!
 
Thaumaturgist
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10/05/2011 07:59AM  
Count me in!
 
MrBreeze
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10/06/2011 03:09PM  
I'm on board, way to go.

luv this site and the ALL the folks who make it so great.

Big Guy
 
10/06/2011 03:20PM  
I'm in (again I think) and always.
 
Boundary Boy
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10/06/2011 03:53PM  
Timed perfectly and well said.
I'm all in
 
HikingStick
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10/06/2011 04:50PM  
I've missed this thread before, as I had been a very irregular visitor until the last year or so. I'm in.

To what did I just agree? ;-)
 
10/06/2011 05:43PM  
quote fishguts: "I renew my Oath of Dignity and Respect.....again. "
and again!:-)
 
10/06/2011 05:58PM  
Somehow I missed this thread before. I take the pledge. I'm amazed at the number of posts. I thought I met a lot of brothers and sisters this past weekend; looks like I have just scratched the surface. I know I still have a lot of work to do, and I expect we all do. Bless you all.
 
chesapeakes
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10/06/2011 06:55PM  
I missed the post somehow. I'm definitely in.
 
georgiaphisherman
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10/07/2011 02:14AM  
WE ALL SHARE A COMMON THREAD...I'M IN.
 
JoeWilderness
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10/07/2011 08:08AM  
What we know about life or anything else really doesn't matter.
What we share, does..............

I'm In!!!!
 
northallen
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10/07/2011 09:40AM  
Yes. Yes. Yes.
The person on the other end is a fellow paddler who loves the BWCA.
 
wawasee
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10/07/2011 09:46AM  
I'm in
 
Skilletmary
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10/07/2011 10:24AM  
quote knothead180: "I agree completely! Whenever I read a post that gets my dander up, rather than add fuel to the fire, I hit the back button on my browser and go on to the next thread. Why dwell on the negative when there are so many positive topics to enjoy?"



I'm in.
 
10/07/2011 12:04PM  
quote Skilletmary: "
quote knothead180: "I agree completely! Whenever I read a post that gets my dander up, rather than add fuel to the fire, I hit the back button on my browser and go on to the next thread. Why dwell on the negative when there are so many positive topics to enjoy?"




I'm in."

SM is right. Too much good stuff here to waste time on negative vibes. I hope my posts demonstrate that I live by the "golden rule" both on line and off.
 
10/07/2011 12:09PM  
Great Thread... I'm in!
 
Troutman
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10/07/2011 02:20PM  
I'm all in!
 
10/09/2011 02:30PM  
Is this the annual renewal notice?

OK, I'm still a subscriber.
 
burntsider
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10/09/2011 02:39PM  
Treating other posters with respect doesn't mean agreeing with them on all points. My points of view are in the decided minority here -- and I understand that. I post without ad hominem tones but I do (and hope I'm able to continue to) express my viewpoints on the management of the BWCA and its effect on its periphery.
 
10/09/2011 03:21PM  
No, burntsider, I don't think the oath means that we all have to agree. To me, and I believe to most (all?) of us, it means that we need to be able to disagree without name-calling, belittling, demeaning, and presenting our own point as though it is the only point that can possibly be correct or sensible.

And sometimes we fall short of that. Sometimes we apologize. But we are trying to keep it civil and respect the dignity of every individual.

 
bigdriver
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10/09/2011 04:43PM  
I'm out we cant all agree
 
10/19/2011 10:49PM  
I'm in. The Golden Rule should always be upheld. I think that is what the BWCA is all about.
 
tobiedog
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10/22/2011 10:56PM  
@spartan2- I think we can all agree.....




that Michigan State is better than Wisconsin!
 
10/23/2011 03:11PM  
I try. Really....I do.
 
Jackfish
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10/24/2011 10:50AM  
quote Spartan2: "To me, and I believe to most (all?) of us, it means that we need to be able to disagree without name-calling, belittling, demeaning, and presenting our own point as though it is the only point that can possibly be correct or sensible.

And sometimes we fall short of that. Sometimes we apologize. But we are trying to keep it civil and respect the dignity of every individual."

Well said, Spartan2. And fortunately, this board is full of people who generally abide by those words. Makes it pretty easy to be a moderator.

Thanks to everyone here on the board.
 
10/26/2011 02:52AM  
I agree Kip, and thank you for the trip report Red Rock to Alpine to Seagull. Took my 4 year old son for his first trip this year and used your trip report as a guide. Great times had by all. He can't wait to go again next year!! I can't wait either.
 
luft
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10/26/2011 11:58AM  
quote bigdriver: "I'm out we cant all agree"


I don't think that necessarily means you have to be out... we can agree to disagree :-)

I generally enjoy reading all the different points of view but move on when the flames start.

Count me in!
 
ryebread26
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10/26/2011 12:21PM  
im in!
 
12/21/2011 09:28AM  
Bump. I feel it's time to renew my pledge.
 
12/21/2011 09:41AM  
I think I've done quite well in the last year.
 
bowfiddler
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12/21/2011 10:22AM  
Yuppers!
 
tschultzee
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12/21/2011 12:14PM  
Count me in !
 
GeorgiaCoast
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12/21/2011 12:54PM  
Me too!
 
luft
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12/21/2011 11:26PM  
Reaffirming and striving to be a better person always...
 
12/22/2011 10:25AM  
I'll re-up too!
 
realandrea
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04/08/2012 07:48PM  
Bump
 
04/08/2012 07:51PM  
I agree. I am in!
 
luft
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04/08/2012 08:09PM  
I feel like this is an excellent day to reaffirm my oath of dignity and respect! Happy Easter! My last vow was just before Christmas so I am seeing a holiday trend beginning...
 
OBX2Kayak
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04/08/2012 08:17PM  
quote realandrea: "Bump"


Realandrea, thanks for the bump. This is good stuff.
 
mboehme
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04/08/2012 08:43PM  
I'm in
 
TeamTuna06
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04/08/2012 11:41PM  
Good stuff!
 
04/09/2012 07:50AM  
WOW. My thread is still going strong. :)
 
Longpaddler
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04/09/2012 07:56AM  
well said...count me in
 
wannabeoutthere
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04/09/2012 12:34PM  
Count me in.
 
Canoeski999
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04/09/2012 02:27PM  
Im in
 
wildernessfan2
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04/09/2012 02:36PM  
Well Said Kiporby! I am with ya!
 
NinjaCoco
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04/09/2012 04:24PM  
*Stands on desk *
"Oh captain my captain."

Yes, I pledge this.
 
Woods Walker
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04/09/2012 04:46PM  
Count me in on this !!!
 
h20
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04/10/2012 01:33AM  
Word. Should be common sense.
 
bbrown6057
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04/10/2012 03:42PM  
I'm in. I always try to treat people as I want to be treated.
 
Beaverjack
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04/10/2012 05:45PM  
Humug. Not really. I'll do my best to not be me.
 
inspector13
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04/10/2012 06:04PM  

I find it funny that this thread is used as a tool in a passive aggressive way.

 
bapabear
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04/10/2012 09:06PM  
It does come back when things heat up, doesn't it? I appreciate the occasional bump and reaffirm my pledge. Kip, you had great foresight in starting this.
 
wildernessfan2
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06/23/2012 03:24AM  
Per Request I agree we have had some snotty replies lately..bump.
 
rookie in 03
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06/23/2012 07:16AM  
Time renew my pledge. As to the tone of some posts, I remember when I was a lurker or new member one poster seemed very intimidating to me. When I REALLY needed help he was the first to reply with straight,accurate and important(to me) information. I went to my first wing night to thank him and found he was nothing like I imagined. I now consider him a very good friend and look forward to our infrequent meetings.
 
chesapeakes
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06/23/2012 07:32AM  
I renew my pledge. This is a great site for info and conversation on the place I love.
 
Basspro69
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06/23/2012 10:08AM  
quote chesapeakes: "I renew my pledge. This is a great site for info and conversation on the place I love."
+1
 
h20
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06/23/2012 10:44AM  
Agreed 100%.
 
06/23/2012 02:53PM  
quote chesapeakes: "I renew my pledge. This is a great site for info and conversation on the place I love."


+1 Again
 
06/23/2012 04:19PM  
So long as I can reserve the right to disagree, I am in. The way we write is important. I am fairly thick skinned and have not felt any sharp pain due to posts I have given although I suppose in hindsight offense could have been taken had I wanted to do so.
 
missmolly
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06/23/2012 05:21PM  
quote bwcadan: "So long as I can reserve the right to disagree, I am in. The way we write is important. I am fairly thick skinned and have not felt any sharp pain due to posts I have given although I suppose in hindsight offense could have been taken had I wanted to do so."


bwcadan, so long as I can reserve the right have you never disagree with me, I am also in.
 
Wallidave
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06/23/2012 05:26PM  
always:)
 
PaddleIN
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06/23/2012 05:31PM  
"dignity and respect"
I'm in.
 
06/23/2012 08:40PM  
I still had a few months to go on my last enlistment but I'll re-up ahead of schedule since I can't count on this thread magically appearing again, at the end of my current tour.
 
gotosleep88
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06/24/2012 05:19PM  
Very interesting. I like that this got brought up to the top. As a newbie is says that when things are getting a little dicy that members care enough to talk about it. I have seen other forums go completely under when issues are not addressed.

Cool! I'm in, of course.
 
rupprider
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10/30/2012 07:19PM  
Of all the threads that I have read in the last couple years this one sticks out the most to me. I figure its about time I sign my name onto it as well. Count me in!
 
JJ396
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10/30/2012 07:47PM  
Count me in!
 
h20
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10/30/2012 09:13PM  
I.m still in
 
Basspro69
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10/30/2012 09:23PM  
quote h20: "I.m still in"
+1
 
10/30/2012 09:39PM  
In again.
 
moosewatcher
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10/30/2012 09:45PM  
I'm in.
 
Papinator
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10/30/2012 10:38PM  
Ok ok ill put the claws away... ;)

I'm in.
 
wetcanoedog
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10/31/2012 12:57AM  
next Wingnight i would suggest that the kids lead us all in the Oath as we stand around the fire...
 
10/31/2012 09:13AM  
Amen! I'm in!
 
Grandma L
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10/31/2012 10:23AM  
I'm in, but isn't this a given.

My favorite BWCA travelers are always respectful of fellow paddlers and the environment so this is not a new concept!!! Shouldn't this be automatic and second nature to all of us?!

 
blutofish1
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10/31/2012 10:49AM  
I'm still in
 
georgelesley
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10/31/2012 11:01AM  
I'm in.
 
joetrain
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10/31/2012 03:07PM  
Count me in.

~JOE~
 
cheesewiz
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10/31/2012 04:57PM  
quote Grandma L: "I'm in, but isn't this a given.


My favorite BWCA travelers are always respectful of fellow paddlers and the environment so this is not a new concept!!! Shouldn't this be automatic and second nature to all of us?!


"


+1
 
10/31/2012 05:11PM  
“Respecting others’ opinions doesn’t mean being untrue to our own.” ~ P.M. Forni

 
ozarkpaddler
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10/31/2012 05:15PM  
quote blutofish1: "I'm still in"

Still "In" too.
 
10/31/2012 05:23PM  
I am still in
 
ArrowheadPaddler
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11/01/2012 06:25AM  
I'm in!
 
11/03/2012 06:28AM  
As a fairly new member I took some really harsh comments from some members when I asked their feelings were about buying a certain solo canoe and it not only hurt but it left a really bitter taste in my heart for them, but I was taught to respect other peoples ideas and go with my gut feeling, I bought that solo and man I cant wait to get it back on the water next year. FRED Of course I pledge to never do to anyone else what those very few people did to me.
 
Basspro69
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11/03/2012 09:14PM  
Im glad you stayed with this website Fog, dont let the 1% ruin it for you, there are way too many good people here, and you will see that over time. p.s. Welcome if I havent already said so .
 
11/04/2012 03:54AM  
Brad thanks a whole bunch. FRED
 
02/05/2013 10:10AM  
A reminder. Trip planning season is in the air. :)
 
02/05/2013 11:48AM  
quote Kiporby:

Adam and the moderators have created a wonderful site for us to exchange ideas, stories, experiences and even a few laughs. Sadly, I fear that the site is becoming more and more angry and critical than it was when I joined. It would sadden me if this trend continues.

Please join me by pledging to treat all members (new and old) with dignity and respect. Remember, we were all "newbies" at one point and all of us still have much to learn. The wilderness is a wonderful place that teaches us many life lessons including Humility. Let us remember the lessons we have learned in God's country and try to live them in the forum, in the chat room and in our everyday lives."


Nicely done Sir! Count me in.

Hans Solo
 
02/05/2013 12:12PM  
Count me in, too. I do like humor, but to raise the spirit, not lower it.
 
h20
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02/05/2013 01:00PM  
Yes. I'm still in.
 
wabakimimaps
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02/05/2013 01:35PM  
I note with interest that another popular paddling bulletin board has recently regurgitated a similar appeal for respect and decency. This seems to me to be more than a mere coincidence. I too am concerned and join the many members who have already pledged not to engage in such behaviour.
Another Appeal for Respect and Decency
 
02/05/2013 05:12PM  
i'm there.
 
02/05/2013 08:36PM  
I'm in again.
 
Basspro69
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02/05/2013 08:37PM  
Still in
 
Miketheflyguy1
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02/05/2013 08:42PM  
I am in .
 
02/05/2013 08:47PM  
If not from before, I am now.
 
airmorse
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02/05/2013 08:51PM  
renewing my oath...
 
OBX2Kayak
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02/05/2013 08:54PM  
Amen
 
wenonahII
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02/05/2013 09:43PM  
I'm all for that!
 
02/05/2013 10:58PM  
I'll not do it. too much "j'ascuse" implied.
I do promise to be as fair and welcoming as I can.
BUt as for dignity, well, I'd have to have some; and respect, well, what goes around comes around. :)
 
muckluck
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02/05/2013 11:32PM  
Yes. Always.
 
02/06/2013 01:18AM  
I haven't been on this site to long, have asked some less than great questions, have always tried to give honest advice,and have almost always been treated with respectful answerers. I simply will not be disrespectful to anyone, that was not the way I was raised, that is my pledge. FRED
 
02/06/2013 08:09AM  
Again
 
01/04/2014 11:20AM  
WOW. 327 Posts! With all these replies it should be utopia here! :)
 
01/04/2014 11:26AM  

I'm in! (Also posted in the new thread regarding this topic.)

Hans Solo
 
01/04/2014 02:25PM  
quote HansSolo: "
I'm in! (Also posted in the new thread regarding this topic.)

Hans Solo"

Me, too! ;)
 
Dances with Sheep
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01/04/2014 05:53PM  
sure
 
h20
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01/04/2014 07:30PM  
As always. Civility rules!
 
Frenchy
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01/04/2014 09:38PM  
Yeah, You Betcha!
 
Michwall2
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01/04/2014 10:04PM  
Yes.
 
PeterJonas323
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01/04/2014 11:41PM  
Thanks for promoting civility. I'm in.
 
topperone
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01/05/2014 12:50AM  
You bet.
 
01/05/2014 04:06AM  
I'm in - thank you.
 
karlwithak
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01/05/2014 09:24PM  
I'm in.
 
shoreviewswede
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01/05/2014 10:08PM  
Yep.
 
thebob.com
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01/06/2014 10:26AM  
Great site.

Speaking strictly for myself; I try to avoid controversial subject matter. I do not come here to promote any personal/political agenda, or to argue needlessly, or create much ado, over matters of little consequence in the grand scheme of things.
I try to treat people with respect; even people I don't know. I have the expectation that I will receive the same respect.
I come to the site to have fun, and hopefully learn some things I don't know.

Therefore, you can count me in.............

BOB
 
01/06/2014 06:36PM  
quote jcavenagh: "
quote HansSolo: "
I'm in! (Also posted in the new thread regarding this topic.)


Hans Solo"

Me, too! ;)"


Me three!
 
OBX2Kayak
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01/06/2014 07:03PM  
Yup
 
Primitiveman
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01/06/2014 08:51PM  
I'm sort of in on this, except when it concerns global warming deniers. Oh and mining near the BWCA advocates too. I just can't respect those opinions but in the spirit of this website I will try to treat them with civility. Primitive men are combative by nature so treat my posts with caution. They are always uncompromisingly honest though.
Jon
 
02/05/2014 12:55PM  
it's a new Year. time to reflect on our words and actions toward others on this board and in the real world.
 
02/05/2014 01:02PM  
yup. if someone makes stupid comments regarding bigfoot, and those comments were penned with a certain degree of knowledge, more or less, respect that.

i'm not sure that made any sense. time to go work on the car.
 
Magelk
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02/05/2014 07:05PM  
I found this thread slightly amusing because this is by far and away the friendliest, nicest board I've ever been on.
 
linkster
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02/05/2014 07:52PM  
It's the perfect time of year
to reflect on canoe trips past,
to share the joy of canoe trips presently being planned;
to rekindle old friendships and spark new ones;
and raise a toast to the canoe trips yet to come.
 
Oarlittle
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02/06/2014 10:01AM  
I'm in!
 
plexmidwest
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02/06/2014 11:21AM  
count me in
 
Me2012
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02/06/2014 12:23PM  
Me too

 
02/06/2014 03:16PM  
All in.
 
schweady
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02/13/2014 07:37PM  
Renewing my vows.
 
02/15/2014 01:31PM  
i'm in, with all the internet sites with trolls and haters it's nice to be a part of this one.
 
Boats059
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02/22/2014 07:02PM  
The nail hit directly on the head, well written. I'm in! Thanks all for such a great community and sharing of knowledge
 
02/23/2014 10:35PM  

I'm in ! ALL IN !
 
old_salt
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02/24/2014 08:59AM  
Treat others as you would like others to treat you. Count me in!
 
schweady
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04/30/2014 01:38PM  
Not that much time has passed since the most recent post in this thread, nor even since my own renewal, but somehow I felt the need to re-up once more. Here's to those who uphold Kiporby's pledge, placed in front of us some 5 years back.
 
bottomtothetap
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04/30/2014 02:16PM  
I have sure enjoyed the friendly interaction I've experienced on this forum. Have also gained much important knowledge and even found an item or two to buy. Thanks to all of you!

I, too pledge to be civil and respectful. That being said, I also hope not to shy away from lively debate! My family doesn't quite get it: They think that each time I share a thought or opinion that contradicts a previous post, I'm "trolling." To the contrary, I think the exchange of different ideas, varying opinions, and ways of seeing things benefits us all and if my comment sparks a reply, then great!

The one time I can think of that I let my anger show was in reply to someone who had posted that while on a BWCA trip they planned to ignore the fishing limits, as they had done in the past, since it was so unlikely that they'd be caught. They felt that since they did not agree with the regulations, they had a right to break the rules and dared the rangers to catch and fine them. I was rather incredulous that someone would post this information, as I think most others on this forum would be as well, and I'm pretty confident that I would have near universal support if I replied the same way (I will) if a similar post ever happens again (I doubt that it will). I did not hesitate to tell that person that I did not respect such an attitude. BUT...and rather importantly, I believe I did remain civil about it and in all off this that is what I think we are all hoping for on BWCA.com
 
OBX2Kayak
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04/30/2014 02:22PM  
Thanks for the reminder. I'm in.
 
PompousPilot1
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04/30/2014 02:26PM  
Yes, indeed.
 
ChasenRahl
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04/30/2014 03:36PM  
Agreed.
 
04/30/2014 04:12PM  
quote bottomtothetap: "The one time I can think of that I let my anger show was in reply to someone who had posted that while on a BWCA trip they planned to ignore the fishing limits, as they had done in the past, since it was so unlikely that they'd be caught. They felt that since they did not agree with the regulations, they had a right to break the rules and dared the rangers to catch and fine them. I was rather incredulous that someone would post this information, as I think most others on this forum would be as well, and I'm pretty confident that I would have near universal support if I replied the same way (I will) if a similar post ever happens again (I doubt that it will). I did not hesitate to tell that person that I did not respect such an attitude. BUT...and rather importantly, I believe I did remain civil about it and in all off this that is what I think we are all hoping for on BWCA.com "

I was in that thread and I agree that you showed anger in a civil fashion. We can express displeasure or even opprobrium and still do so with a civil tongue.
 
1956tbird
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04/30/2014 04:43PM  
With pleasure.
 
yogi59weedr
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04/30/2014 10:50PM  
I pledge to treat others with dignity and respect. I hope I have not offended anyone. I love this site.its like information on steroids. I still bust a gut on that thread about weed and that Barney Fife nip it in the bud video..
 
jtbwcaw
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06/03/2014 09:57PM  
I'm in!
 
h20
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06/27/2015 11:36PM  
Heck yeah! Once again, I'm in.
 
Guest Paddler
  
06/28/2015 07:33AM  
This is like the third or fifth go around and many just don't learn it. It has improved some over time, but slips are still made by the usual suspects. Another reason that I limit my presence here
 
linkster
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06/28/2015 09:28AM  
I rededicate my commitment to The Oath of Dignity and Respect. Anyone can be inarticulate at times including myself, and I will make every to respond in a positive fashion or refrain from responding. I agree to disagree, and do not want to squelch anyone's opinion. I have learned much from the collective wisdom of this community.
 
Longpaddler
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06/28/2015 09:43AM  
I re-up. This site has the greatest people in the world!!
 
Laketrout58
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06/28/2015 10:07AM  
The golden rule! Yes,I am in!, Marc
 
KarlBAndersen1
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06/28/2015 08:33PM  
quote Kiporby:"I think too many of us forget that the username you are conversing with or responding to is actually another human being. "


Which is why I use my name. I have always found "usernames" to simply reflect back to the days of CB radios when we used 'handles' to disguise our true identity, or to be very immature as a minimum.
I don't care what you say. It's childish.
I spend a great deal of my time in the cyber world for many business and professional reasons.
Many of the newer web sites I belong to REQUIRE that we use our real names and identities in our on-line profiles.
It cuts the b.s. to nearly zero.
 
Elydog
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06/28/2015 10:21PM  
I'm in. Thanks for starting this thread.
 
Basspro69
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06/28/2015 11:11PM  
Im in. For those that have been here for awhile scroll through the names from the top, some nostalgia there from the members that are no longer with us.
 
RetiredDave
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06/29/2015 07:07AM  
I'm in and thankful to have this site, it's like a post-graduate degree in camping and canoeing. For instance, I learned when I joined a few years back that FIB means Friendly Illinois Brother.

Thanks moderators and contributors, even though I don't add much (to everyone's benefit!), I check this site every day. I have absolutely changed the way I camp and canoe because of it.

Dave
 
builditbetter22
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06/29/2015 09:07AM  
I'm in.
 
Michwall2
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06/29/2015 10:24AM  
Done.
 
Miketheflyguy1
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06/29/2015 06:43PM  
Yes, I am in.
 
h20
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06/29/2015 06:54PM  
quote RetiredDave: "I'm in and thankful to have this site, it's like a post-graduate degree in camping and canoeing. For instance, I learned when I joined a few years back that FIB means Friendly Illinois Brother.


Thanks moderators and contributors, even though I don't add much (to everyone's benefit!), I check this site every day. I have absolutely changed the way I camp and canoe because of it.


Dave"
Yes, brother.
 
06/29/2015 09:10PM  
I totally agree. I feel the same. I came here a couple of years ago to help be prepared for my first outfitted trip. Now, thanks to what I learned here from others experiences, I have my own gear, plan more trips and take my kids because I am comfortable doing it with the knowledge I gained here. Thanks to all those who contribute to the community. I hope that someday when I am an experienced paddler, I can offer the same help to other "newbies" like I once was.
 
FISHMAN3
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06/29/2015 09:39PM  
So much truth to every word spoke, I'm in
 
06/29/2015 09:53PM  
I'm in.
 
GrandpaT
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06/30/2015 03:08PM  
You've got my pledge and support. Guess I should spend a little more time here reading a little since I'm about 5 years late on this.
 
Papinator
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07/01/2015 12:58AM  
On it.
 
h20
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07/26/2015 12:19AM  
just a bump.
 
07/05/2016 02:13PM  
bump...
 
07/05/2016 03:13PM  
Apparently I have yet to take the oath, so therefore let me be sworn.
 
Basspro69
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07/05/2016 03:14PM  
Glad to see this again, a recent post really made me think of this.
 
07/05/2016 07:22PM  
I would love to pay this forward!
You guys never make me feel stupid. Yeah -Butthead often suggests doing a "search" on said posted topic.... that's been covered, but I liken that to my E6 in the Navy - who often made me do the research myself - which then - I learned faster, and retained better.

Regardless.... you've all provided me invaluable advice, and I just have to give a HUGE shout out to:

Cowdoc - You always give me the best advice, and chat with me at night - and I appreciate that! (even though you get annoyed at me for not responding, or being distracted with wine/chickens when you come into the chat room)

Canoearoo - you've become a "real life" friend, and I appreciate your friendship and your family so much!!!!

Basspro69 - for speaking matters of faith with me

Kiporby - for making me call you LT. Dan. My family referred to me as LT Dan when I went into the Navy - so I find it charming.

Bogwalker - for the rare lunchtime chat

520Eek - for chatting me up - late at night - and "watching" North Country with me.

Ducks - again - for providing invaluable advice! My daughter is excited to hang out with your daughters at wing night again!

Dan Cooke - your product line is bare none!

SevenOfNine - Thank you for your winter camping advice which made my first cold - tent trip a success! (And everyone else who commented on my post.)

And everyone else who has given me advice and encouragement. You've enriched my trips, and keep me excited!

 
billconner
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12/16/2016 06:56AM  
A few posts lately that lead me to bump this one up. And after writing and deleting a number of additional comments, I'll just leave it here.
 
GoSpursGo
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12/16/2016 07:47AM  
always a good reminder
 
Basspro69
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12/16/2016 09:38AM  
quote GoSpursGo: "always a good reminder "
+1
 
yogi59weedr
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12/16/2016 09:47AM  
Renewed. My oath. Now ill live by it.
 
12/16/2016 10:14AM  
Never taken the oath before but I am in.
I try to always be civil, but if I am taking the oath, then I must apologize for a past transgression to riverrunner, I realize we are both passionate about bears.
Sorry riverrunner.
 
Savage Voyageur
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12/16/2016 10:30AM  
Lately there has been a few posts that I have typed out then hit the delete button. I will renew my pledge.
 
SaganagaJoe
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12/16/2016 11:09AM  
I'm in.
 
12/16/2016 11:27AM  
Very nicely put Kip, and thank you for the reminder. I completely agree and pledge, along with you. Everyone has an opinion, that opinion may not align with yours, but as I have grown older, I have figured out I have learned more when I listened to differing opinions rather than contesting them. Never be afraid to learn something new...
 
12/16/2016 04:53PM  
The bump and reminder are timely. Thanks.
 
missmolly
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12/16/2016 05:16PM  
quote LindenTree3: "Never taken the oath before but I am in.
I try to always be civil, but if I am taking the oath, then I must apologize for a past transgression to riverrunner, I realize we are both passionate about bears.
Sorry riverrunner."


You do much more than try. You are the epitome of civility.
 
RetiredDave
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12/16/2016 07:31PM  
Oh I'm still in for sure! But I just found out what FIB really means....

Dave (from Illinois)
 
12/16/2016 10:17PM  
Never have because I probably will break it, still working at tempering thoughts and opinions. It's been a long process.

Mostly just want to thank Lindsey for what I consider the biggest compliment I have received. Obviously I do not read all posts often enough, so it is belated!

Never want to sound condescending, the wealth of advise that has been given here by members is something I promote and research often. I encourage others to do also because past members who have contributed may no longer be here....

Thanks!

butthead
 
blutofish1
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12/17/2016 08:28AM  
I'm still in. Thanks Kip
 
12/17/2016 09:22AM  
and not just while posting here...
Interesting story...
My wife and I are not very religious folks. We used to be church going Roman Catholics, but for a variety of reasons, we left that organization about 30 years ago. We have been asked, "How can you teach your children to be good people when you abandon your faith?"
I think we've done OK in that department.

Recently, our youngest child, now a college freshman, was presented with a situation at school that required him to make a significant choice about his future. Things were apparently happening in his chosen department that he felt were immoral and unacceptable. Now he could have made a big stink and filed grievances, etc. But he felt that doing so could injure the reputations and careers of some folks who might not have been involved. He chose to make a few quiet, private statements and then he withdrew from the program. Now he will have a significantly different career than he originally planned.
He chose dignity and respect even at his expense.

I am so damn proud of that young man I could just about bust!
 
missmolly
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12/17/2016 09:56AM  
You are rightfully proud, JC.
 
Grouseguy1
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12/17/2016 12:05PM  
I will take no such pledge. However, I'll abide by the rules just enough not to get suspended or banned.
 
missmolly
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12/17/2016 01:00PM  
Hey, GrouseGuy, you sound like a guy who likes to grouse! ;-)
 
billconner
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04/11/2021 12:58PM  
Thought this deserves a bump. I try to think about this each time I click submit here.
 
jimbocr1167
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04/11/2021 01:01PM  
I'm in. Amen
 
04/11/2021 02:45PM  
I'll renew my vows.
 
schweady
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04/11/2021 07:20PM  
I signed up here 15 years ago this past week.
Good enough time as any to say, "I do." Again.
Thanks, Kip.
 
woodsandwater
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04/11/2021 07:35PM  
I'm in. Again. This needs to be our place of refuge from all the craziness out there.
 
BearBurrito
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04/12/2021 09:59AM  
I will renew my vows on this.
 
04/12/2021 11:56AM  
Always a good reminder. Thanks for the bump.
 
WIMike
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04/12/2021 01:28PM  
I'm in.

I got all the way to the posts about Packers fans before I realized the thread was over a decade old. Wouldn't be a bad idea to revive this thread every year.
 
04/12/2021 03:49PM  
Count me in again.
 
RunningFox
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04/12/2021 05:49PM  
I’ll try to do better. I never meant to burn any bridges.
 
04/12/2021 08:48PM  
I'm in! As I've aged, it's become a lot easier.
 
Stormy
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04/22/2021 05:53PM  
I have not been here in a very long time. I remember when Kip first posted this, it sure seems like so long ago in a very different time. Seeing the posts from people I used to interact with every night, especially the ones who are no longer with us... wow. Emotional.

Absolutely on board now, as then, but the squabbles that would arise from time to time, which caused Kip to post this, were so mild compared to today's world.

Hello again to all the old friends and to all of today's members. This is one great place.
 
04/22/2021 06:46PM  
Renewing my vows.
 
adam
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05/25/2021 06:22AM  
Top
 
mgraber
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05/25/2021 09:19PM  
I'm all in!
 
Frenchy
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05/26/2021 05:48AM  
I’m with you.
 
LoopyLoons
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05/26/2021 12:38PM  
I'm in. This site has helped me plenty. Have even purchased my beautiful canoe from a member.
 
MississippiDan
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05/26/2021 07:37PM  
Just do it.
 
billconner
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01/30/2023 06:23PM  
Thought it was time for a bump. Feels a few people have forgotten this principle. I recommit.
 
02/18/2023 08:40AM  
Good initiative, Bill. I'll give it a bump as well.
 
02/18/2023 11:04AM  
Great thread to bring up yearly. We just went through a rough patch on another site. Some people like to bring contentious issues to sites about places that people go to find peace and personal renewal just to stir things up. Fortunately both that and this site have moderators that keep things on track and try to focus on promoting the forum as a place where people feel safe making comments and asking questions that will help people enjoy the areas we are discussing. Way to go everyone who helps make this site what it is. Always good to remind people we can be better.

Also, kind of sad seeing so many names of people from the past 16 years that are gone. I appreciate all that are still here to help me remember trips that have been and dream of trips still to come.
 
02/18/2023 03:18PM  
Whenever one of these "bumps" comes up I realize that even though I think I read a lot on this site, I must miss a lot, too. Didn't realize that there had been any conflicts. Hope it wasn't anything too serious, and that hurt feelings have healed.
 
02/18/2023 07:37PM  
Aw hell... I'm gonna stay the same as I am and not pledge to be any different. I just upped my yearly contribution $5 to cover any insults or hurt feelings inflicted on others from my thoughful posts!
 
Stumpy
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02/19/2023 02:31AM  
bobbernumber3: "Aw hell... I'm gonna stay the same as I am and not pledge to be any different. I just upped my yearly contribution $5 to cover any insults or hurt feelings inflicted on others from my thoughful posts!"

Wow! You must be a mean, insulting, hurtful, person of some unrecognizable gender. ;)

Go ahead... hurt my feelings.
 
02/19/2023 10:48AM  
Stumpy: "
bobbernumber3: "Aw hell... I'm gonna stay the same as I am and not pledge to be any different. I just upped my yearly contribution $5 to cover any insults or hurt feelings inflicted on others from my thoughful posts!"

Wow! You must be a mean, insulting, hurtful, person of some unrecognizable gender. ;)

Go ahead.... hurt my feelings "

I tend to be blunt and honest. And probably opinionated, which comes with age. I'm hoping my post would make people aware of the need to support this website financially.
 
OldGuide2
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02/19/2023 12:27PM  
Thank you and add another.
 
billconner
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04/07/2023 12:16PM  
A bunch of posts deleted this morning, including mine reminding members of this oath. I wish people would think twice before condemning someone else's views. We don't have to agree, but stick to the subject instead of launching personal attacks. At the risk of being accused of bringing politics into this, we don't all have to stoop to the level of personal attacks of our elected leaders and representatives.
 
Basspro69
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04/08/2023 09:53AM  
In my opinion this is the best post I’ve ever read on this site !
 
04/09/2023 10:22PM  
Like Spartan2, I've been missing a lot of late. I hope everyone has healed and I do renew my vows.
 
04/17/2023 09:53AM  
A great reminder for all.
 
04/17/2023 02:16PM  
You can count me in Kip

UPBoy
 
OakyDoke
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04/17/2023 09:18PM  
My pleasure to take the oath! Peace and Love to all!
I must say, in my few years as more of a lurker through now, this community and the mods do a pretty stand-up job with the handful of users who must not be concerned much with Dignity and Respect.
Peace and Love to all!

 
missmolly
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04/18/2023 09:49AM  
Basspro69: "In my opinion this is the best post I’ve ever read on this site !"


C'mon! It's not better than the post immediately below:


Basspro69 rocks!


You gotta love ^this^ post more, right?
 
ThreeRivers
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04/18/2023 01:29PM  
I don't feel I need to take any oath, as it is common sense that I have always abided by here. Light fun is ok, but any attack is not, even on unique opinions. I have only been "confronted" once in the last 10+ years and that was when I asked about flags in camps which went a bit viral on opinions, that thankfully Adam shut down. I was looking for peoples opinion but it got very out of hand. 95% of everything on this site has made my experience in the BWCA better, which I why I donate.

Be well

3R

 
LaVirginienne
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04/20/2023 07:37PM  
I pledge to treat all of you with dignity and respect, to be an upbeat and joyful presence here, and to support each and every one of you on life’s great adventures here in the Boundary Waters.

Thanks so much for being here at this outpost that I return to every year for good company and great information.

You guys rock

LaVirginienne
 
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